Russia - threadbanned users in OP

Had a flight in an An-2 once, it left the ground at walking speed, felt like a nice gentle VTOL 😊, as for the inside; agricultural is the word. Lovely machine.

In the post you are referring to, I included a link whch details how F-35 secrets have been incorporated in the Chinese J-20. Here it is again.

No mention of the F-117.

The point of my post was related to various assertions that decades old US fighters can't be allowed to be used in this conflict because of secrets. I'm glad you think there are still some secrets left to the F-35, but they don't seem relevant as a reason not to allow F16, F-18, F-15 fighters to be supplied to Ukraine. I'd still give them F-35s if it were up to me.

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She is quite a character and has earned her unique place in this conflict.

The Chinese Communist Party looking at moving to a more open, formal and substantial support, including weapons to Russia.

The revolution must be defended, the revolution must be international.

Will it cause Ukraine to lose. No.

It may well add years to the conflict and hundreds of thousands more dead on both sides and end with a stalemate that is an open sore for years to come.

An article including a Ukrainian pilots perspective as to why they need western jets, which runs a bit contrary to some of the military experts who claim they don't.

https://archive.ph/MZeXJ

Easy to claim they don't when it's not your family potentially being wiped out because your fighter couldn't get a firing solution on a cruise missile that you were hoping to down. And in case you disbelieve that scenario:

If the Ru military collapses, or their will to fight evaporates, anything is possible.

I haven't seen any comments that Ru was just about to run out of ammunition, they can manufacture rounds and shells. Many have been saying they are running low on certain munitions, which is evident.

"Don't ever forget, England imposed this war on us" on the banner. Goebbels speech, Germany 1942

The eerie similarities to Russia today are pretty self-evident.

They are going to take back Crimea,no amount of trolling will change that, even the Russian know Crimea will fall ,

Some people just like being wrong

"The F-15 Eagle is a case in point. It first entered production in 1972, and continued to be built into 2004, but in all that time total production for the US Air Force was 1,065 aircraft. Each F-15 took about eighteen months to build, and it cost $42.5 million per copy—the cost being mainly a reflection of the tens of thousands of man-hours of highly skilled labour that went into building it. Even today it remains a very impressive and lethal machine—but it is also very scarce.11 The increase in the cost of weapons since World War II has been staggering. The Spitfire, probably the best fighter in the world in 1939, cost £5,000 to build. When its third-generation successor, the air defence version of the Tornado, entered service with the Royal Air Force in the early 1980s, each one cost £17 million: one hundred and seventy-two times more expensive after allowing for inflation. Subsequent price rises have been gentler, but that doesn’t help much: the total program cost for the next-generation Eurofighter, of which the Royal Air Force ultimately ordered 160 aircraft, was estimated by the National Audit Office to be heading for £37 billion—that is, £231 million per aircraft. No country is several hundred times richer than it was at the beginning of World War II, so far fewer weapons can be built. Approximately the same amount of factory space was devoted to the construction of military aircraft in the United States at the height of the Reagan defence build-up in the 1980s as was devoted to the same purpose in Germany during World War II. But whereas in 1944 Germany was building three thousand planes a month (and losing them at about the same rate), American production of military aircraft in the 1980s averaged about fifty a month. Recent generations of fighters are far better than those of World War II, of course. They can fly three times as fast and carry five or six times the weight of munitions; they can detect an opponent hundreds of miles away and attack at a hundred times the range a Spitfire could manage. They are also much more likely to destroy their opponent, because their weapons are far more accurate and lethal. But that simply makes the problem worse: not only can air forces afford fewer aircraft, but they are going to lose them at a faster rate."

Dyer, Gwynne. WAR (pp. 407-408). Garnet Publishing (UK) Ltd. Kindle Edition. 

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Some people are too stupid to realise that Russia hasn't been a socialist state for decades, so why the likes of Cuba support them is crazy, because they're politically poles apart. I think that even the IRSP supports Putin, taking idiocy to a different level altogether.

Even regarding China as a communist state is wrong these days, with their being up to their eyeballs in capitalism, and the Chinese workers must be wondering where the communism went.

Meanwhile in the skies over south Korea.