Unhappy with owning an EV in Ireland

I appreciate you adding some context to your post. Here's the thing. Statistically speaking, the probability of there being some housing estates with higher numbers of EVs and Model 3s in particular is in the likely range. The type of estate matters, so richer areas will have a higher percentage of EVs in general. So, I don't disbelieve your claim, but you have built up credibility in time and posts here.

That said, when the claim is made on top of half of Model 3 owners in an estate moving to hybrids is just nonsense. Not impossible, but not credible from where it came. It's like a bad liar. One fib is never enough...the liar compounds with an extra couple of fibs for effect.

I would say my overall estate name of around 800 houses had about 3% full BEV, so right about the figure given by the SEAI nationally. I haven't gone around counting them all though 😂.

I mean one very real possibility is that some people bought a Tesla based on some future wealth but then lost their jobs or got a pay cut or interest rates and inflation meant they couldn't afford it

I definitely find it hard to believe that a bunch of people like that live in one estate unless it was the proverbial factory town and the factory closed down

Not any relevance to what people live in an estate in Ireland but there was a youtube video breaking down tesla owners in America. Basically they are more over leveraged than other ev owners, younger, more invested in youth meme stocks like netflix, tesla and btc. And being young may also lose jobs more easily as have less experience.

now they wouldnt be living in the same estate in Ireland but i can see how young guys in their 20s try for a Tesla over any other ev. This ties in with the last two comments

Ofc the counter is that in a very affluent estate there wouldnt be Teslas. But that is a different discussion

IMO not having home charging is the defining reason not to buy an EV at present. What's the point, you've all the hassle of trying to keep it charged and no financial reward over ICE

100% i would actively discourage anyone who doesnt have home charging from buying an EV.

No, because that's not the main dispute. While having 3 or 4 Model 3s (not just Teslas.....thats a climb down from your original claim) in an estate of 255 houses would be an outlier, it wouldn't be surprising to find a few examples of this in Ireland running off similar numbers. Finding 7 Model 3s in an estate of 255 would be far less probable and would surprise me even though I know that concentration is still statistically reasonable, but without an unusual set of circumstances, this would not be likely at all. 1 Model 3 for every 50 houses.....no.

Add to this your claim that 3 of them changed to hybrids. It's just BS. If you could prove both claims, then absolutely I would apologise for calling you out on BS, but not for ignorance, because I am not ignorant for calling your claims to be BS. I am very simply using the available numbers while considering the likelihood of one claim and making a reasoned assumption on the second claim based on those numbers.

PHEV are really suited for a lifestyle of regular short urban trips and occasional long trips. So living in Dublin and the odd trip down the country kind of lifestyle.

Talking to a mate about it and with both agreed if we were heading to Dublin from the west coast for a major event (all Ireland final for example) then there's no way we could could risk an electric but a PHEV would be ideal.

It's ~300km (ish) from the west coast to Dublin.

I can't see how an EV would be feasible on the day of an All Ireland when everybody wants to do a single day round trip and cars heavily loaded with 4 or 5 people and all needing a charge about the same time on the way home.

Another example would be people who go to a seaside town on a bank holiday weekend and only a handful of chargers available with a huge number of visitors low on juice.

A friend of mine has a BEV and a PHEV, prioritises the BEV and the PHEV gets used on all long journeys.

Say 20 trips on average 300km is maybe €600 a year on fuel. That's very little relatively for the freedom that the PHEV brings.

In any 2 car house retaining an ICE or PHEV seems a no brainer.

Can't see how anybody would travel from say Kerry to Dublin and back for an All Ireland final in a BEV if there was an ICE or PHEV sitting beside it in a driveway.