Transgender man wins women's 100 yd and 400 yd freestyle races.

It would mean that there would no longer be a category for biological females only. I assume that lots of biological females would like the existence of such a category to continue so that would need to be dealt with.

Shouldn’t be allowed compete. Absolute farce.

From an entertainment perspective maybe let them compete and let all the biological females juice like hell too. Be world records falling all over the place. 😂

Could see a player in ladies football score 5-10 in an all Ireland final. It has its merits.

I think that might make the MMA administration uncomfortable as well but I don't think they've ever pitted 2 opponents together that, by themselves, were completely mismatched to the point of jeopardizing safety or human life, either. And if they have, its admonishable, regardless of the sex of the competitors.

I know you're going to try use this as some kind of gotcha in another thread, so I'll be 100% clear on this. I believe the use of puberty blockers, and cross sex hormone treatment on children, and teenagers for the purpose of socially transitioning gender is entirely unethical.

I'm saying that this does unfortunately happen at present, and an argument could be made for a male that went through that medical process to be allowed compete in female sports.

At what point did we get to as a race where sex based categories are ignored? A lot of the people pushing this themselves either had no interest in sport and to a lesser extent were mediocre sports people at best. So how have we regressed to deny science and biology? And deem it “progressive”? No way should anyone who identifies as a transgender woman be allowed in women’s sports categories.

I neveronce said you did, so stop looking for offence where there is none.

It is a vehement argument put forward by TRAs who seem completely lost in this ideology.

And it's reassuring to know you see sense.

Watching Ireland Italy U20s tonight, Hollie Davidson excellent on the whistle again. She played u20s for Scotland in her time, an elite level.

How do you reckon she would get on tackling Francesco Gallorini, the 6ft 3, 133kg Italian tight head? Have a look at scrum time

Yeah, sorry 'bout that. Probably should have started a new thread about the LGFA rather than post in this one...

I know, but it just set off a whole argument that has already been had...

You are talking about 10-11 year olds here. This is hardly a real world comparison...but you probably already know that, and here you are still scraping the bottom of the barrel.

What's the argument here?

Girls treated unfairly? Yes. I'd agree. But that's somewhere in America.

Are these not kids around about 11 yo?

I would see no physical advantage either way, boy or girl at that age.

Note that 5th graders are around 10-11 years old so pre-puberty.

If anything this further proves the point people have been making. Pre puberty no difference in athletic performance, post puberty gigantic difference between male and female athletic performance, that's why you can't have transgender girls (biological males) competing against girls post puberty (when sport is taken properly seriously) if you want a fair sport.

Turns out it was a mother on a mission without all the facts:

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"This is one parent who got on Facebook and, obviously, did not understand the process," Rice told Insider. "So there must have been a breakdown between the coach and the parents."

The City of Hoover told Insider that the championship girls played on an "elite" team, where the players are specially selected based on their high-skill level, and thus they're not part of the "regular" league.

The boys teams they played against are part of the "regular" league, where the most skilled players are spread out across teams and not loaded all onto one team, the statement said.

Rice said that "elite" teams generally play teams from across the metro area, but can join recreational league tournaments to "get additional games and for practice."

Rice said the girls team was not forced to play against the boys, and that the coaches chose to, knowing they wouldn't be given the trophy if they won.

"These elite teams come in and they request to participate in the tournament and they're told you can participate, but you're not part of our league, so you can't be named the champion for your grade level," Rice told Insider. "They agreed to that. The coaches knew that."

Didn't the USA women's soccer team play against a teenage boy team and get beaten also?