Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

50k at the customs house easy- if anything it could be closer to 100k!

Clearly you don't understand the situation if you fail to intuit the gravity of a Somalian entering Ireland using falsified documentation. Let's be clear that this person transited through multiple safe countries, before arriving in Ireland. The first act of that same individual, upon reaching our shores, is to transgress the laws of this country.

It's alarming that this scenario is becoming increasingly prevalent in our dysfunctional immigration system.

PPS numbers issued in 2022 Irish 69070 out of a total of 305889. Draw your own conclusions .

https://www.gov.ie/en/collection/a78027-statistics-on-personal-public-service-pps-numbers-issued/

Are you trying to tell me there's no direct flight from Mogadishu to Dublin?

Seriously though, it's interesting looking at it, the vast majority of flights from Somalia go to Istanbul, and then on to a major European airport (London, Amsterdam, Paris). The Turkish also had a gripe with the volume of immigrants entering their country.

Simon Harris will never ever do anything that rocks the boat. He only cares about his seat and power. Utterly useless. Did nothing for our health system either, nothing.

This is hardly a surprise though. If you are an asylum seeker and the only way you can get to a particular country is with a false passport, then you are going to take that option - I would do the same if I was in their position. It doesn't mean though that they are a criminal or a potential terrorist or rapist or whatever (no more than the undocumented Irish in the US are criminals or terrorists).

Agreed. A lot of the calls that would reduce the flow of immigrants are DOJ ones - currently under Simon Harris.

Harris seems to be willing to let Leo go out on a limb with the robust borders rhetoric and see how it plays.

At the moment Harris appears to be doubling down on the pro NGO, pro immigrant stuff. He's much harsher in his language about protests.

If there's mileage in having the backing of the powers that be Harris will be their spokesman. If Varadkar is taking too much of a gamble Harris will be delighted to undermine him.

But if the wind is truly shifting direction watch out for a change of tune from Harris.

Harris is a very significant bellwether for the changes in mood that may be happening in FG.

IMO there's little risk for Leo in trotting out the spiel about being "fair and firm and hard" on migration, as long as he doesn't back it up with specific policy commitments, or none that the government wouldn't be doing anyway in all probability. As I was saying above, he has a long history of coming out with these apparently right-wing soundbites but doing little or nothing to flesh them out. Like when he came out with this

that sounds like he was trying to stake out some elusive middle ground on abortion but when you drill down is not incompatible in supporting a full-on liberal abortion regime, as he ultimately did. So as yet I'm seeing little sign the government won't broadly maintain their current course on immigrants and refugees...

Yes, passing through multiple EU countries with fake documents to get to Ireland does not add up for me.

Well we have no idea if he travelled through multiple different countries with fake documents.

We know he landed at his final destination with fake documents.

A destination where we will allow you in if you are entering illegally or not.

I am not sure other countries will let you in if you are entering illegally.

It is possible he passed through other countries with his correct documentation.

Apparently the protesters are pro apartheid too

But you don't care about that answer, just like you didn't care about the answer about what other countries he travelled through.

You are throwing out irrelevant questions to avoid answering if you are alarmed he is in irealnd illegally.

What is relevant is that he moved to Ireland illegally and should be deported.

Would you not agree he should be deported?

The article will get more views than the slogans he implicated he’s seen or heard around of “Ireland for the Irish”

Most of the responses here simply gripe about the tourism industry, which seems completely out of key with the lads article.

It would have been nice of him to journal where he heard that chant or how prevalent it actually was