Liverpool FC Team Talk, Gossip, Rumours 2024/25

I think if you eliminate the individual errors you'd find we'd win a lot more games,

Absolute class goal too. Audacious and perfectly executed

But I'd say the only positive is that it removes the last hiding place that we're desperate for reinforcements. These players have given everything for so long, and we all love them for it, but plenty need replacing now, and that's not being disrespectful to them at all

I haven't read all the comments. Just home from the pub and this is the lowest I've felt watching us for a long, long time. Hope you're all doing ok

Tonight was the same as Saturday went 2-0 but couldn’t close out the game, only difference was Newcastle went down to 10 men and didn’t take any of the chances they created.

He called it out as if it was his fault entirely. Why? Why not say the midfield was schooled tonight, or the defence?

Klopp paid the price for playing him? That makes no sense. Play who instead? Jones? Ox? Keita? What midfield line up tonight would have been better?

😂😂 bad timing.

That was frustrating. Madrid is our bogey team no doubt. The stats were the same between the 2 teams and yet it is 5-2. We are in control at 2-0, they score a world class goal from a world class player. Then our best and most reliable player this year gives away a goal and we are chasing the game again. The 3rd goal was terrible defending and then we give away one to a huge deflection. The 5th was just a break away goal as we are chasing the game.

They weren't better than us until they were ahead in the tie when Modric started coming into the game. But he was nowhere at 2-0. You just have to take all your chances against them as their players are so confident in this competition and will score 4 when only having 5 shots at goal. But there were still some positives from the match and its not like we were blown out of the water against a team that had 65% possession and gave us no chance. Tough match that will be tough to get over, hope the players do better than me as I am broken by that result.

Being realistic, Liverpool have been massively struggling this season. We are just coming back to a bit of form and were up against the best **** house/skill house team on the planet.

We looked good, scored two brilliant goals and were in the game until 2-2. After that Madrid showed that they have class/form in every position while we are still waiting for some players to hit their expected form again.

Beat Everton, beat Newcastle, went head to head with Real Madrid and despite a decent attempt got a pretty bad result and a bit of a schooling/humbling at the end. Take the positives, focus on getting top 4, recruit well in the summer.

The wider issue of transfers and relying on Elliot and other kids this year is obviously still our biggest issue and really needs to be addressed in the summer.

Madrid had the legs in midfield with Camavinga and Valverde out working Henderson and Fabhino and Modric out thinking the three of ours in the second half. We burned out after the first 45 minutes and we're chasing shadows in there.

Yes they got lucky with some of their goals but they still should have won. However I still think there was a good shout for a penalty for the push on Nunez which gives us a chance to go 3-3 rather than 4-2 down.

You could also see the heads drop when Ali made his mistake. Confidence is very fragile at the moment so seeing your POTY make that type of mistake will drain you.

After 20-30 mins the energy was gone fabinho and Henderson couldn't keep it up, a young kid on his own against one of the best midfielders ever.

Fullbacks pushed up, midfield couldn't cover the space and we got exposed by Vini and Benzema over and over.

I love klopp and one of the main reasons has been our high energy attacking football but come on we are 2 nil up quickly, why do we need to be pushing for a 3rd. Drop back, soak up some pressure and try hit them on the break, protect that lead. This is the champions league knockout not a 90 min game, the tie has barely begun. Klopp and pep have to show more pragmatic tactics with the players at our disposal.

I fully expected a beating last night but we just played right into their hands after a great start.

Nunez brilliant again, world class finish, worked hard defensively too.

Gomez sell sell sell. Hard to believe we won a league with the same player.

The only positive is we are scoring goals again, a few weeks back we couldn't even hit the target. That's 6 goals in 3 games, I'll take it.

Darwin been great lately but he's playing LW what happens when Diaz is back ?

Will we be back to square one with Nunez trying to figure out what to do with him

For the love of god please stop quoting him.

We're overrating how good Madrid are. They looked that good because the engine room is a joke.

I've seen Carragher have a go at the defence, and I just can't be having it. It's literally Gomez (who shouldn't be there), and Fabinho, who is no more than a carthorse. 4 of the 5 goals involved Gomez being too timid or making a bad decision. The 5th goal, was Fabinho miscontrolling a pass worse than any professional footballer should, and we got countered mercilessly.

The defence will come up 2 or 3 notches once we have competence in there. If you have no protection in front of you, your job as a defender is verging on impossible, because with the pace of the game now, and the focus on taking advantage of turnover ball, there are too many options for a defender to cover. Even on the 5th goal, VVD looks a bit silly because the ball went through his legs to Benzema, but he did all he could do and got unlucky.

We had the warning against Newcastle. They could've easily drawn that game with 10 men - they missed gaping chances.

If your midfield cannot press the ball, then your defence has to retreat. so many of our problems last night were because Madrid had free reign to move forward in the middle of the pitch, and so the defence had to try to go into a low block, which we just aren't very good at. now, the fact we aren't good at it is perhaps an issue with coaching. but Pep is arguably the greatest ever, and there are certain things his teams can't do, and what does he do? He and his clubs refresh his teams so that he doesn't need 'Plan B, C or D'. he can just figure out ways to do Plan A better.

Gomez had a really poor game & as you say is passive, but he also had to spend most the game trying to help Trent, first goal & the free kick Trent gets by passed in the first place,

Your correct Fab miscontrolled & it started the break but a midfielder who shall not be named should have just fouled Modric ,the same player lost the ball for there second goal & missed controlled the ball for Gomez deflection, ,

For the free kick where is VVD,Becker, Hendo looking at the set up & thinking we need someone to step forward into the space , Crazy to defend in a straight line so deep ,where are our leaders ?

My point is there's more than just Gomez & Fab ( who was very good in the first half) at fault. Trent's poor defender has gone on so long now people don't even bother bringing him up him anymore ,

Konate was a huge miss not just for how good he is at his own position but the fact he is great at covering Trent that says it all really,

Why bring Ferguson into it? I don't think one person has ever seriously suggested that Klopp is in the same conversation as him, so it's a bit moot.

All great managers should know when to freshen things up, and stubbornly make the powers do it. Pep is doing it right now - there are some growing pains, but freshness keeps things competitive.

Klopp's greatest strength is also his greatest flaw. His players run through walls for him, but when they hit a wall they now can't run through he remains far too loyal. Henderson had his peak two years ago, and it became obvious quite quickly, that was it in terms of top tier performance. Fabinho's peak was before his last injury, and he hasn't been the same since. Gomez hasn't been good enough for at least 2 or 3 years now. I don't care how good Milner is to have about the place, he shouldn't be playing any important minutes for us at this stage. Firmino's peak was 2 years ago and he still might get a new contract - for what, I don't know? ****, we should probably be keeping half an eye on VVD, no? (kind of half joking with that last one, but he has definitely waned)

Klopp is ideal for these owners, unfortunately. He's happy to be loyal for as long as he possibly can, and reward the players who have got the club to where it has been. and I honestly don't believe he stands up to his board and demands players when they're needed.

I wrote last night that the loss was needed, and i meant it. we possibly need to be humiliated again in the Bernabeu, or at least be exposed as not in their league again - and certainly not get CL qualification this season. these owners will not do what is necessary until they don't have the golden goose - CL money. it needs a restart. the team needs to be gutted and rebooted, and I don't think it happens without CL going down the drain.

we've always been that way under Klopp.

the likes of VVD, Matip, Henderson, Fabinho and Firmino just aren't in prime condition anymore, Mane left (and it's looked like, at Bayern, that his level had dropped to be fair), Bacjetic and Elliott aren't there yet.

Alisson, Salah, VVD, Robertson and (IMO) Trent are the only ones at the level needed. we can argue about Trent all day, but we're expecting him to be doing things he never had to do when the team was good. if the team was compact, his negatives wouldn't even be noticed. he's still insanely good on the ball, but he's being pulverised by no protection.

Those 4 or 5 simply cannot carry the rest in the Klopp system. it's that simple.

And just to add, if we go into full rebuild, we do need to ask if Klopp is the guy to do it - not because we have to ask whether he's capable, because he's already built us once, but because we have to ask whether we want him to refresh everything with his style of player if the plan is that he could leave in a couple of years, because we don't want to be left with players that don't give us cohesion to whoever is next.

The second goal completely killed the players & the crowd , Once the crowd went Madrid knew we where there for the taking , the manner of the goal it made it worse ,

It looked like the player thought how in the world have we blown a 2 goal lead & things just got sloppy & lazy ,Almost like oh well here we go again ,

If we'd have got to half time it would have been interesting to see how we wold approach the second half,

I reckon it was Bajcetic's decision to get Arthur