Are Mick Wallace and Clare Daly Irelands greatest shame?

Hopefully the U S of A.

Russia know they are weak, acts like this shows it.

Invade a sovereign country, face the consequences.

Bullies need to be dealt with face on.

Bucha is an attested fact. These Russian lies have already been thoroughly discredited with regard to the temperature in Ukraine at the time and the satellite imagery have been checked out by independent experts.

Look at how Russian denials and lies shifted over time. The same pattern observed in the shooting down MH17.

You cannot face up to and so therefore refuse evidence of what Russia is doing in Ukraine. Yet come out with nonsense about standing with them morally. You stand for their crimes. You defend war criminals. That is your morality. It is plain for all to see.

The use of indiscriminate heavy weapons is an attested fact.

The cruise missile strikes deliberately hitting residential targets.

The deliberate targeting of civilian refuges in Mariupol.

This isn't something Russia started in Ukraine. In Syria medical agencies had to stop sharing locations with Russia - something done to PREVENT attacks, as they were attacked by Russia and allied Russian forces as soon as they shared the information.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/feb/18/msf-will-not-share-syria-gps-locations-after-deliberate-attacks

The BBC is one of the most reputable news agencies in the world. They don't get everything correct but if you are going to dispute their version of events you need more than Russian lies. I don't know whatever dregs of the internet you get your daily dose of their propaganda lies from but no doubt they will not have anything like the standards and impartiality of the BBC.

I think it's pretty clear you will swallow whatever lies Russia puts out. Blinded by your hatred of the West and your bankrupt sense of morality.

It is the same hatred and bankruptness we see in Wallace and Daly. The same evasions and clutching at any rod with which to criticise the West. And the same deliberate muddying of the waters re any Russian atrocity.

The fate of the Russians? You mean all the ethnic Russians who have died as a result of Russian action in flattening their cities and conscripting them to use as cannon fodder?

Those Russians that Russia allegedly went in to protect yet killed them in their thousands?

Yeah you don't care about them either anymore than you care about the Ukrainians.

Budapest was not replaced by Minsk. So no, we don't start in 2008 that's not how it works no matter how inconvenient the clear violations of that treaty are to defenders of Russia and those who fall for their propaganda lies. Russia has no right to draw such a redline in violation of treaties it has signed to previous de-escalation of conflict between Russia and NATO \ NATO powers. And this was has never really been about Ukraine joining NATO. Russia's violations of Budapest started when Ukraine were about to sign a non military treaty with the EU. It has always been about keeping Ukraine in Russia's orbit as a vassal state and virtual colony.

As for Minsk, yeah Russia broke that too by continuining to support the Donbas separatists.

Plus there are no nuclear weapons stationed by NATO in Poland, Baltics etc.

There would be none likewise in Ukraine if it joined NATO.

This is all covered by the terms of the NATO-Russia Founding Act.

So if Russia was concerned about nuclear weapons in NATO countries on its borders... all it had to do with abide by its responsibilities under that agreement, as NATO has done.

Instead Russia breaches its own commitments under that agreement, and violates it with this invasion.

Similarly under Budapest Ukraine gave up its strategic weapons including nuclear weapons, in return for Russian guarantees of sovereignty and territorial integrity. Which Russia then repeatedly violated.

It is what Russia does. Then lies about it.

We don't have Twink presently embarrassing us on the global political stage about matters of importance though, as opposed to say nul points at the Eurovision.

* And this is Politics forum, maybe in After Hours you would have more chance with this line of attack

"little nothing countries"

What a thoroughly disgusting attitude for any person to hold - never mind (I assume) an Irish person whose forebears were told for centuries their nation had no right to exist.