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Best 15 hurlers you saw in the flesh

  • 18-02-2023 7:49pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 658 ✭✭✭Mad about baa baas


    Seems to be a lot of tension here lately so for a bit of fun

    Best 15 hurlers you saw in the flesh just a few rules..

    No one from your own county

    No more than 2 from any one county

    Players in position they played in as much as possible

    It's trickier than you think!

    My own effort

    D fitzhenry

    Seanie flood /B lohan/ ollie canning

    Sean og / Ken mgrath/b whelehan

    Cian lynch/Brendan maher

    Ben o Conner./Joe canning/ Joe dooley

    Tony Kelly/ eoin Kelly/ John mullane


    Interesting to see others views



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  • Registered Users Posts: 658 ✭✭✭Mad about baa baas


    Could have picked several different variations but the 2 to a county makes it tricky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,631 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    Joe canning.


    End of story, best hurler to ever play the game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,892 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    DJ Carey



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭eggy81


    Brian whelehan.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,995 ✭✭✭billyhead


    Brendan Cummins

    J Tyrell B Corcoran O Canning

    Sean Og K McGrath L Rushe

    O Baker

    TJ Reid J Canning C Keaney

    T Kelly E Kelly


    Have to think about those final 2 slots. It's very difficult when you can only select 2 .



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,353 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    But sure everybody has seen different hurlers in the flesh….

    whatever about a best 15, Joe Canning was just a different level altogether



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,892 ✭✭✭✭callaway92




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭Finty Lemon


    Brendan Cummins


    Jackie Tyrell

    Brian Lohan

    JJ Delaney


    Kyle Hayes

    Ken McGrath

    Tommy Walsh


    Michael Fennelly

    Cian Lynch


    Ben O Connor

    TJ Reid

    H Shefflin


    Joe Canning

    Seamus Callanan

    Bernie Madoff



  • Registered Users Posts: 824 ✭✭✭lim4ev


    with not much thought I'd have to put in a bigger effort to follow all the rules

    ger cunningham

    Eddie o Connor

    lohan

    brian Murphy

    whelehan

    Keady

    t walsh

    brick walsh

    Brendan maher

    john leahy

    sheflin

    eoin larkin

    eoin Kelly

    canning

    mullane



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  • Registered Users Posts: 658 ✭✭✭Mad about baa baas


    That's the point...I was curious to see do lads look back with rose tinted glasses like me or have recency bias..limiting to 2 per team makes you think and give some credit to lads from counties you don't necessarily have a great gra for..as I say just a bit of fun for a change from all the heated debate and bitterness



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,631 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    Aisling thompson



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,995 ✭✭✭billyhead




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,995 ✭✭✭billyhead


    More than 2 from KK @ Tipp. That's why it's so tricky.



  • Registered Users Posts: 824 ✭✭✭lim4ev


    I know, I'll have to put in a bigger effort which I'll try do over the next few days



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭BK5


    1. Damien Fitzhenry
    2. Brian Corcoran
    3. Brian Lohan
    4. Ollie Canning
    5. Brian Whelehan
    6. Paraic Maher
    7. JJ Delaney
    8. Tommy Walsh
    9. Ken Mc Grath
    10. Joe Canning
    11. Henry Sheflin
    12. TJ Reid
    13. Eoin Kelly
    14. Gearoid Hegarty
    15. Patrick Horgan

    One from Wexford, Clare, Offaly, Limerick and Waterford. Two from Cork, Galway and Tipp, but couldn't help it but have 4 from Kilkenny.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,309 ✭✭✭evolvingtipperary101


    This is a good thread idea.

    BEST TEAM -  Two from every county

    Damien Fitzhenry


       Brian Corcoran    JJ Delaney       Ollie canning


        Ken McGrath Seanie McMahon Kyle Hayes


                    Austin Gleeson     Lee Chin


            Ben o Connor TJ Reid  Hegarty

     

           Shane Brick Joe Canning Tony Kelly



    Without the rule of two- The real best team I’ve ever seen

    B Cummins

    JJ Delaney   Brian Corcoran   Cathal Barrett

    Tomny Walsh Padraic Maher Brendan Maher                  


     Michael Fennelly Noel McGrath

     

    DJ Carey  TJ Reid   Henry Shefflin  

    Eoin Kelly Seamie Callanan Lar Corbett    


    Honorable mentions

    Marty Kavanagh

    Ken McGrath

    Paul Flynn

    Mark Foley (maybe it’s just me but people forget how good this guy was – not the greatest delivery at times – but for hooking and blocking, could he be surpassed? Maybe only Brian Corcoran better for hooking and blocking.)

    Ciaran Carey

    Nickie Quaide

    Declan Hannon

    William O'Donoghue

    Kyle Hayes (More than likely make my all time team in a few years)

    Joe Canning

    Nicky English (only saw the end and was too young but the skills on show were sublime)

    Michael Cleary

    Tommy Dunne

    Seanie McMahon

    Declan Ryan

    Eoin Larkin

    Brian Lohan

    Tony Kelly

    Davy Fitz (I know I know but jesus he was good)

    Colin Lynch

    Joe Deane

    Ben O’Connor

    Sean Og

    Curran

    Gardner

    John Mullane

    Post edited by evolvingtipperary101 on


  • Registered Users Posts: 658 ✭✭✭Mad about baa baas


    Don't mean to be a pain but you have 2 tipp men in your best team..can't have anyone from your own county



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,309 ✭✭✭evolvingtipperary101




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,995 ✭✭✭billyhead


    To finish this I'll stick Mullane in the other corner forward position and Lee Chin in the midfield.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,077 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    This was hard

    Noel Skehan

    Sylvia Linnane

    Brian Lohan

    Martin Hanamy

    Brian Whealan

    Tony Keady

    Kyle Hayes

    John Fenton

    Ollie Baker

    Martin Storey

    Jimmy Barry Murphy

    Dan Shannhan

    Henry Shefflin

    Joe Mckenna

    John Mullane

    Subs( match day 26)

    Davy Fitz Dj Carey, Tommy Walsh, Nichlos English Seanie McMahon, Pat Fleury, Pat Hartigan, John Callinan Ben O Connor, Geroid Hegerty, Sean Og O'Haplin

    Not too bad and no Tipp hurler on starting 15.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,124 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    Ken Hogan (tipperary)

    brian whelahan (offaly)

    brian lohan (clare )

    jj Delaney (kilkenny)

    conal bonnor tipperary

    seanie mcmahon clare

    ritchie power kilkenny

    tony kelly clare

    colin fennelly kilkenny

    henery sheflin kilkenny

    eddie brennan kilkenny

    ciaran carey limerick

    nicky english tipperary

    pat fox tipperary

    joe dean cork



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,532 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    Damien Fitzhenry

    Sean Finn

    Brian Lohan

    Ollie Canning

    Brian Whelehan

    Ken McGrath

    Paudie Maher

    Lee Chin

    Johnny Pilkington

    Gearoid Hegarty

    Joe Canning

    Henry Shefflin

    John Mullane

    Seamus Callanan

    DJ Carey



  • Registered Users Posts: 824 ✭✭✭lim4ev


    OK my revised team playing by the rules

    fitzhenry

    brian Murphy

    lohan

    Frank lohan

    t walsh

    Ken mc grath

    t keady

    pilkington

    Adrian fenlon

    Ben o Connor

    sheflin

    leahy

    eoin Kelly

    canning

    mullane

    it's actually very hard



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,077 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Ya it is not easy. You cannot really name the best you have seen and must leave out a serious amount of good players. You can only pick two of DJ Carey, Shefflin, TJ Reid, JjDelaney, Noel Skehan, Eddie Keher, Tommy Walsh etc,

    Then you are set hing for CB's etc as generally the great CB were on the great teams but you have to leave out some serious players to put them in

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭PeggyShippen


    Tricky task but enjoyable.

    Davy Fitz

    Fan larkin -diarmuid o Sullivan - Brian corcoran

    Liam Doyle - Ken McGrath- Kyle Hayes.

    Shefflin - Tom Kenny

    John Leahy -Martin Storey- hegarty

    Mullane _eoin Kelly- Tony kelly

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  • Registered Users Posts: 658 ✭✭✭Mad about baa baas




  • Registered Users Posts: 4,309 ✭✭✭evolvingtipperary101




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,532 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    The 'none from your own county' provision completely by-passed me. So may bring in Anthony Nash for Fitzhenry, and Tony Kelly for Lee Chin (who I probably could have included originally)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 346 ✭✭Exiled1


    Damin Fitzhenry

    Brian Lohan Pat Hartigan John Horgan

    Brian Whelehan Tony Keady Mick Roche

    Ken McGrath Lee Chin

    Eddie Keher TJ Reid Paul Flynn

    Jimmy Doyle Joe Canning Eamonn Cregan

    Honorable mentions ....Noel Skehan, Joe Cooney, JJ Delaney, Nicky English, Ciaran Carey, Tony Doran, Henry Shefflin, DJ Carey and many more.



  • Posts: 13,688 ✭✭✭✭ Jade Rotten Fluff


    Tommy Walsh is the best player to pick up a hurley.

    An all-star in all areas of the field. Would have won one in goal too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,147 ✭✭✭Rosita




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭randd1


    While I started going to and seeing hurling in the 80's, and while there are plenty of great players from then to until now, I think over the past 20 years the speed of the game has moved on to the point that the players operating today may be more skilful but operate under much higher game pace and so stand out more in my lifetime.

    The best I've seen in the flesh, in order,

    (1) Joe Canning (2) Pauric Maher (3) Eoin Kelly (4) Tony Kelly (5) Ben O'Connor

    Outside of Kilkenny players, Canning is the best for me, had it all, pure artist. Maher was a colossus in all forms, and I think the big clearances and heavy hits covered over that he had outrageous skill and vision. Eoin Kelly carried Tipp for years, and was a magician to watch. Ditto Tony Kelly, a joy watch in the flesh, his first touch is supreme and may be the best point taker I've ever seen. Ben O'Connor was for me the jewel in the crown of a great Cork team, but unlike the way the team faded quickly, he remained their best player for a long time afterwards, and you didn't know what he would when he got the ball.

    But if we were allowed to pick from our own county, I'd have to change it to;

    (1) TJ Reid (2) JJ Delaney (3) Henry Shefflin (4) Joe Canning (5) Tommy Walsh

    For me, at their peak, Reid is the best player full stop, with Delaney just behind as the best defender to have played the game in terms of quality and skill. Shefflin was truly brilliant and ridiculously consistent, Canning edges out Walsh for skill but Walsh definitely top 5 for his all-round ability.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭PeggyShippen


    The likes of Joe Canning was a pure artist allright and Kelly. But neither were able to deliver in finals like Hegarty can. He's on a level on his own for his ability to perform massively on the biggest day consistently. Like Joe's scoring record in finals from play is poor enough.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,147 ✭✭✭Rosita


    Hegarty is different alright. When TJ Reid catches a high one (usually fouling in the process) he's often struggling to offload or gets closed down, with occasionally good scores. When Hegarty catches a high one he is devastating. Far more difficult to tie down than Reid or Canning.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,485 ✭✭✭MfMan


    Hegarty's scoring record from play in AI finals is more impressive than Canning's certainly, but doesn't take into account free-taking or sidelines (0-2 for Canning), or take into account clutch scores such as the late free he blasted to the net in 2018 or the free to send 2012 to a replay etc. The finals Canning played in were against better opposition (or maybe the teams were more evenly matched) than Limericks (and Hegarty didn't score in the 2018 final). Canning's record in Leinster finals is decent enough and he scored the last 5 points in Galway's 1-point victory over Tipp in the 2017 semi-final, including 3 superb ones from play, in what was Galway's tightest game that year.

    My point being that scores from play in an AI final isn't the only metric, it's more scores at times when scoring is difficult and at a premium that is important also.



  • Registered Users Posts: 658 ✭✭✭Mad about baa baas


    You really can't help the Kilkenny hatred can you..probably the only reason you haven't named a team is you might have to admit we had 2 good hurlers

    On tj vs hegarty..the ball that tj wins is completely different usually high long and coming down on 4/5 people..more often than not he cant get away due to being fouled himself and then converts the free ..hegarty gets himself into one on one and gets excellent supply ..

    Hegarty is an excellent hurler but him and tj have different roles and comparing them is difficult..once you look past the stripes on the Jersey



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,147 ✭✭✭Rosita


    Indeed. Everything IS about Kilkenny. Well spotted. I could mention Canning all day and "hatred" would not have to be mentioned.



  • Registered Users Posts: 658 ✭✭✭Mad about baa baas


    Ok..you are consistent if nothing else..that is the first negative comment you had about kilkenny..I'm raving

    De nile isn't only a river in Egypt

    ..



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,309 ✭✭✭evolvingtipperary101


    This thread was started to stop tension and yet here we are. It's supposed to be a thread about picking a team with only two players from any county and none from your own...



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  • Registered Users Posts: 658 ✭✭✭Mad about baa baas


    You are 100pc correct..consider me tension free and back on track..



  • Registered Users Posts: 824 ✭✭✭lim4ev


    I think gearoid would be thrilled to be mentioned in the same sentence as tj, he really has deserved to be talked up lately considering his performances. remember though tj is 35 gearoid is 28 so he has a few more yrs of doing it yr in yr out like tj has for god knows how long



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 346 ✭✭Exiled1


    Mick Burns RIP Eire Óg Nenagh and Tipp. Now there was a class wing back who could play on any all time great team and wouldn't look out of place.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭cosatron


    here my go.

    1. fitzhenry, wexford
    2. Frank Lohan, clare
    3. JJ Delaney, kk
    4. Noel Connors, waterford
    5. D Byrnes lim
    6. Seanie McMahon clare
    7. John Gardiner cork
    8. Colin Lynch, clare
    9. Larry O'Gorman wexford
    10. Dan Shanahan, waterford
    11. Tj Ried, kk
    12. Geraroid Hegarty lim
    13. Joe Deane Cork
    14. John Leahy tipp
    15. Eoin Kelly tipp


  • Registered Users Posts: 995 ✭✭✭Ragwort and Stones


    I'm not going to name position wise. Just the best 15. Just to say John Mullane is highly rated by most but I found his striking off his left hand side a bit weak.

    1. Brian Whelehan
    2. Tommy Walsh
    3. JJ Delaney
    4. Brian Corcoran
    5. Nicky English
    6. John Fenton
    7. Henry Shefflin
    8. Brian Lohan
    9. DJ Carey
    10. Joe Canning
    11. John Troy
    12. Ken McGrath
    13. TJ Reid
    14. Joe Cooney
    15. Tony Keady

    A few honourable mentions.

    1. Eddie Keher (1975 and I was young, otherwise be in the 15)
    2. Tony Kelly
    3. Gearoid Hegarty
    4. Cian Lynch
    5. Ciaran Carey
    6. Martin Storey
    7. Damien Fitzhenry
    8. Eoin Murphy
    9. John Taylor (Laois)
    10. Joe Deane
    11. John Leahy


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭cosatron


    but have you seen all these in the flesh. as the title of the thread states, ive no offaly player in my team as for some reason, i never seen the good offaly team, all the rest i remember going home from galway games, thinking he had some game.



  • Registered Users Posts: 995 ✭✭✭Ragwort and Stones


    Well bar being in the showers with them!! Reminds me of the Joe Lynch joke, if he caught his missus in bed with Christy Ring he'd go downstairs and make tae for him!

    It's going to inter county matches since 1975. There are a lot of people 80 year of age plus who have seen all the top hurlers from the late 40s up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,077 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    I remember seeing the 1972 railway cup final and the replay. Mick O Connell kicked a massive long range free to draw the first game. Munster won the replay easily.

    Admittedly some of the players I have seen only on TV playing. However I remember seeing John Fenton's wonder goal. When he hit a ball on the ground and scored from 50 yards out

    https://youtu.be/K_zIVYkMGUc


    Jimmy Barry Murphy goal where he doubled on an overhead ball to score a goal against Galway saw it live on TV and it was Fenton who delivered in the ball

    https://youtu.be/v-SOlO6Waz0

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,431 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Cork, Brian Corcoran and Ben O Connor

    Tipp, Eoin Kelly and Seanus Callanan

    Kilkenny Eddie Brennan and Tommy Walsh

    Limerick Ciaran Carey and Mark Foley

    Galway Joe Canning and Gerry Mcinernay

    Clare Brian Lohan

    Waterford Tony Browne

    Antrim Sambo

    Wexford Fitzhenry

    Offaly Johonny Pilkington





  • Seriously don't know how John Troy is above the likes of Lynch, Hegarty or Kelly. 3 hurlers, one twice hurler of the year. Makes absolutely no sense



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