Russia - threadbanned users in OP

Ukraine needs whatever it's been asking for. It does my head in that many in the west treat them as intersting infants having a small scrap in a school yard who don't realise what they really wan't, need or can handle.

Ukraine can manage the maintainance of Abraams and fighter jets. They wouldn't be asking for them otherwise. They have very experienced military people telling Zelensky what's needed and what they can master and what is within their capabilities to utilise. When Zelensky is asking for things, he's not cracking jokes or making it up, he's speaking for an entire military that have put thought into it and informed him of their needs, so he asks for that.

All in on Leopard 2s? A large chunk of those morphed into Leopard 1's. It shouldn't be about intellectualising fine niceties of what would be the perfect solution and giveng them that, The perfect solution is as many tanks as possible, irrespective of brand name.

It should be about what they are asking for. There is no 'this western tank might be slightly better than that one', it really is a matter of just numbers, so it's as many tanks as possible, challengers, Leopards, Abraams, the lot.

Yesterday I watched a western reporter on TV with an active Ukrainian artillery unit. One guy was saying it's been a year and they have not seen anything from all the western assistance he's been reading about. Their Grad dated to 1972, their artillery piece to the 1950's. And this was an active unit, mid sentence a target came in on the radio and they stoppoed talking and jumped to it and started firing.

They simply need a lot more than the west has been giving, of everything, even down to blankets.

If Australia were to send those sitting doing nothing Abramms, they would of course send all the spares and diagnostic tools and everything they have and use to support them, that goes without saying.

They also have somewhere around 46 F-18s, sitting around doing nothing which would be far better and more useful than F-16s. As Australia was hoping to sell those, I think Ukraine should offer to buy them, which might be more realistic than asking for a multi billion gift. They are being gifted billions from the G7, Japan and Norway, so those very capable planes should be well affordable, like the two blackhawks they bought.

Clonan has been pimping his opinion to the highest bidder for the last 10 years.

The problem was they did feel ready to take on the world... Georgia, Crimea, Syria before biting off too much with all of Ukraine ... I don't think many analysts got the shape of this war correct if you look to just over a year ago.

And as noted on the thread, if they'd gone "all in" with their forces for the four border oblasts this time last year they might have pulled it off.

There is a bit of a surge happening among Left movements, Socialist parties etc, more vocal, more defiant recently.

Lots of marches, protests etc calling for an immediate ceasefire, Lula in Brazil refusing ammunition to Ukraine, Scholz rolling back on Tanks, again. A whole slew of Socialist party leaders across Europe fighting arms exports to Ukraine. Countries like China, North Korea, Cuba stepping up support in solidarity with the Comrade in the Kremlin.

If they are getting worried, then Russia must be really sweating.

It might consider domestic issues to threaten harmony and what it considers its rightful place as global super power.

We'll end the China discussion, like Russia they may have other considerations, outside of what we consider advisable. History is often the story of "well we wouldn't have done that if we had a chance again".

Did you read what I wrote? If Ukraine are asking for something, they want it and know full well what it entails. I am not proposing a logistical nightmare, the Ukrainians are by asking for everything. 37% of Ukrainians who had jobs before the war, don't now. They have 25% unemployment and so they have the manpower to do logistics, turbine repairs, you name it. They make jet engines and missiles and drone boats and aircraft and keep old Soviet planes and stuff functioning. They can fix an Abraams.

Look, if the west were handing over 300-400 latest model, all same type Leopard 2s, then yes that would be better and easier all round, but since that's not happeneing, it's a case of whatever is available.

Just give them whatever they are asking for and let them handle it. They aren't idiots.

Powerful video

Give me a really big catapult and I'll show you where I would put it.

They got 20,000 applications to join some new assault units and 6,000 for some other unit.

More presies from uncle Joe too:

So let us suppose the Ukrainian military are a bunch of clueless idiots who don't know all that. If you gave them that list and they still said send us every Abrams you can spare, what would be your reply if it was up to you whether the tanks were sent; or not?

Went back the past few pages and couldn't see this posted. Apologies if it's a report.

My memory is far from perfect but I think so. A nice addition to whatever drones Australia announced sending yesterday.

But.

While it's nice to look at all these aid packages and think wow, there is this minute, a unit in Bakhmut trying to raise funds for €4000-€5,400 commercially available DJI or Autel thermal imaging drone, despite 90 odd such being sent to the area 2-3 weeks ago. The attrition rate is probably severe. Another unit is trying to raise funds for 10 thermal sights because of the night time street fighting. So just keep that in mind lest anyone thinks these small handfulls of stuff are game changers, or sufficient.

Nance spent time with the foreign legion fighting in Ukraine

I read his IT article on the invasion of Georgia and how the Ru army is reorganising. If Ru did as Coonan said it did ttheen judging by the way Ru is operating in Ukr for the past year it must have ditched its new strategy taken on board after the Georgia operation and REVERTED BACK TO WHAT IT’S TRADITIONAL STYLE .

I doubt. Very much if Ru ever changed its Special Operations strategy after Georgia. It’s just Coonan letting on that he is an expert on all these matters I always suspected him as a bluffer - riding on his army experience. I don’t think that he was ever directly involved in a war -though was involved as a peace keeper between warring factions - now lads , that’s enough for today - we will have none of that!!!!!!