Switching electric/gas providers (see first post for links)

Just be sure it’s actually 20%, typically what they offer would also include all of the direct debit and paperless discounts.

Apparently you can refuse the smart meter. I believe you have to inform ESB Networks that you don't want it installed. You will have to provide them with your MPRN.

I queried that exact point multiple times, I was assured each time that the total will be 20%, the paperwork has arrived and is unclear, but I intend to talk with a different rep on Monday just to make sure!

I'd agree with getting a smart meter but stay on 24 rates at least for a while to get an idea. You can then read the meter to see what you actually used. Bonkers calculations are way off (at least for me) & seem to be aimed at promoting smart plans more. Their calcs show 9 % peak rate, 40% night & rest day. MY usage has been 18% peak & night & rest day rate.

Doing the calcs myself the smart plans are starting to become the cheaper option so I May change over in the next month when my current discount is due to end. For me atm the bord gais 1 free w/e day looks the cheapest option but bonkers says otherwise.

Did it there just last week. Took about 30 secs. All they do is simply remove you from the list.

What do you expect in this country? Our gov would sell its soul to the devil. Nothing will ever change.

M3 is almost the same as last year.

UK graph

Below pre war prices, the first major increase in my electricity bill was march 2022. I think there was another large increase in sept/Oct. If we got back to the march price and possibly fix for the year it would be significant relief

Time will tell, but the smart money would be on prices falling very significantly.

Without wanting to derail this very useful thread, private companies might be happy with high prices and profits, but they certainly don't create anything but problems for governments. That's why govts all around Europe are subsidising consumers and businesses to the maximum extent possible.

https://www.independent.ie/news/revealed-first-provider-cuts-electricity-prices-pressure-mounts-on-rest-to-follow-as-greens-delay-extra-200-energy-credit-42349778.html

Revealed: First provider cuts electricity prices, pressure mounts on rest to follow as Greens delay extra €200 energy credit

I wonder how the 7% of the general population who voted for them in the last elections feel like... I also wonder what their next % will be.

Anyway the reduction is welcomed but it is super tiny and not representing what the wholesale reality is. The joke of future prices locked is not a joke anymore. We easily pay the highest prices in Europe

Does anyone have the number for the Energia retention team, not the renewals team?

They get you every which way, if you try and save/economise using less electricity as every campaign advises they slap you with a "Supplementary Standing Charge" doubling the existing standing charge. How does it cost them so much more to deliver less electricity on existing fixed infrastructure.

Criminal how standing charges were allowed increase inline with unit rates which are at least market driven.

That has really annoyed me too! Cut down my gas usage (LPG tank) cos you know cost and the government ads continually telling us too, not that they were my main motivation and lo and behold I now end up on a higher cost per unit because my usage has decreased! It's very unfair.

Has anybody ever had issues getting a copy of their contract? I have switched to a pinergy EV plan as great FIT of 25cent and 7.75 between 2-5am, where ove 90% of our energy is used. THe disadvantage is their level paying thing. I've emailed a few times asking for a copy of my contract as I'd like to see the formula for level pay calculation for example to ensure my FIT credit is acknolwleged. They give me a link to the T&C's on their website, but that's not my contract witht them It has loads of things relating to prepay accounts for example. Is it just me or is it very odd to be told you are in a contract but that you can't see what contract you are in? I'm no legal boffin but surely they can't hold you to a contract that they wo'nt show you?

I have noticed alot more adds appearing for switching in recent weeks. On the SSE airtricity website I see welcome credit of 150 euro and 10% discount. Other tarrifs are 15%. Standards rates are still high but it could be the start a reducing pricing over the coming weeks