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Sidewalk regulation on this wall?

  • 27-02-2023 1:35pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 94 ✭✭


    Hi folks,

    Builders added this wall to my property, and I wonder if this is following the regulations for sidewalks. As you can see it's built on top of the sidewalk and blocks the water drainage (the finishing added to the concrete).

    I want to push it back to the builders and request another solution other than this wall. Anything I could argue? Suggestions?


    I appreciate! Thank you!






Comments

  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,367 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    What’s the problem?

    Who asked for the wall?

    Where does it block the drainage?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,556 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    And what was there before the wall was built?

    The concrete footpath looks new. Who provided that?



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,367 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 94 ✭✭albernazj93


    Yep. That's the one. I'm having a lot of issues with this wall and I'm still in touch with the builders.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 94 ✭✭albernazj93


    Long story short. The house was given to me with this wall.


    I wonder if it breaks any regulations? Can they build a wall that takes some cm of the sidewalk?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,188 ✭✭✭standardg60


    Well apart from the fact it's not connected to a foundation as was pointed out in the original thread what issues are you having?



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,367 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    What are the issues?

    It’s a new development that hasn’t been handed over to the council yet so they can do as they please….relatively speaking.

    You agreed to the wall originally…..?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 857 ✭✭✭Ronney


    What I can see from the Photos the wall isn't built on the path. You can see a thin line of the top of the course of brick at the base which would suggest the brick starts below path.

    The path looks plenty wide to comply with any regulations on that end.

    Is your issue kids sitting on the wall? Could a Railing along the top sort this? or building the Wall up/reducing the height (Making sure it complies with planning/Building Regs etc.)

    It looks like the purpose of the wall is retain the ground and keep the Part M access to your home. Is the wall inside your property/do you own it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,076 ✭✭✭chooseusername




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 94 ✭✭albernazj93


    Hey Ronney,


    Thanks for your reply. Actually, path was there first. Path and front of the house was built first and wall put on top afterwards. Bricks a just laying there...

    I was wondering the way it was built was against any regulation.

    The list of issues goes on and on. Increasing or decreasing size won't really solve them, unfortunately.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,889 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    OP, the link back to 2019 is not working so I think you need to better than

    "The list of issues goes on and on. Increasing or decreasing size won't really solve them, unfortunately."

    you need to be CFC, and transparent with what is at issue here

    we don't do this


    “I can’t pay my staff or mortgage with instagram likes”.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭mayota


    Really looks like wall was built first.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,076 ✭✭✭chooseusername


    "OP, the link back to 2019 is not working "

    That's because that thread has been removed now. As I recall it was over 200 posts long, mostly about this wall, manhole covers, etc, etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,074 ✭✭✭10-10-20




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 789 ✭✭✭GSBellew


    There was a long thread about it which seems to have been deleted today, was there earlier.

    The OP was unhappy that the entrance to their property was not finished in block paving and was substantially higher than the foot path, you can see the height difference in the pictures.

    It was agreed between the OP and the Builder that a wall would be constructed along the edge of the site as in the pictures above.

    I'm only guessing that there is an issue with water pooling between the house and the front door during heavy rain, or its running into the back garden via the side gate as the concrete slopes down to either side from the center at the front door, there were small drainage channels left between a few courses of brick at the lower edge, left of the gate to the rear that would be easily blocked by debris.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 789 ✭✭✭GSBellew


    Looks ok on google street view, would stop people taking a shortcut round the corner through the OP's front garden for the most part, I'd prefer it to no boundary myself.

    Are teenagers decamping from the grassy area across the road and congregating there?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,556 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    But what exactly is the problem? If it's a drainage issue can you post a photo showing this?

    Also your previous thread has disappeared so did you ask for it to be taken down?

    Something very fishy about this whole thing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 94 ✭✭albernazj93


    The point is not really the issues the wall causes. I wonder whether or not the wall is against any regulation since I'm in touch with builders and I'd mention it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,485 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    Looks like the wall is there for safety?

    No wall and the change in level is a trip hazard. Build wall no trip hazard.

    More of an issue from a safety point of view if the wall isn't there. Safety would be a trump card for anyone wanting to retain the wall.

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Subscribers Posts: 42,172 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    it doesnt block drainage. The path should be sloped towards the road, so any storm water should drain to the road. its possible it blocks draining from your path (not the public path) but you havent included any photos of this so it difficult to tell. PLus the builder could have made allowances in the construction to drain your path onto the public path.

    there are very few 'regulations' that cover public paths.

    it looks like the wall runs along the side of your property, which runs alongside a public road..... so there should be a wall there



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,367 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Wall looks perfect to me.

    deleting the original thread appears you are hiding something now. Good thing it may be cached.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,556 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    You conveniently overlooked my post so I'll ask both questions one more time ...What exactly is the problem? Did you ask for your thread back in 2019 to be taken down and if so why?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,188 ✭✭✭standardg60


    Think the laugh is on us if we engage any further with this poster tbh



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 729 ✭✭✭Kazooie


    "blocks the water drainage (the finishing added to the concrete"

    The smooth edge I think you are referring to is not for drainage. It's a common asthetic finish on steps / footpaths.



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