Rewiring & Plumbing Costs at Present?

€25-30k for Air to water, €12-€15k for rewire, not including anything else like slabbing hardwall or breaking floors etc. etc.

If at all possible don’t tell the bank about the works you plan on doing, they could break your heart looking for costs and Engineers reports and then go on to tell you that you can’t afford to buy the house and complete the works, the less you tell them the better, if the wiring or plumbing is a bit outdated etc. it probably won’t be picked up on except you tell them

yes seriously, in a lot of cases a person could move in and live with the old plumbing and wiring in place no problem, however they obviously will not have data points, wall lights, spots, heat recovery, air to water, u/f heating etc. etc. etc. An Engineer will not know if the wiring is correct or not, this would require an electrician to do an inspection, also an Engineer isn’t going to know if the heating is working or not, In a lot of cases the gas/ oil / water isn’t even running in the house at the time of the inspection, the surveys are more of a visual on the structure and a check to ensure it’s built as per planning if applicable, you absolutely do not need to tell the bank if you plan on doing work to the house after you buy it

Maybe he was allowing for dry-lining and hard walling or new floors etc. I don’t know but if it’s €100k for plumbing rewire and those windows and doors it’s absolute madness, I did a 1930’s 1500 sq/Ft refurb along with an 800 sq/ft extension last year, wiring €11k, plumbing (A2W &UFH) around €23k, wasn’t in Dublin, I assumed I added on enough to allow for the location. The other user mentioned a small extension with a builders finish for €140-160k, that’s madness around here anyway. I’m in a different part of the country and know the rates around here, I’m in the industry too, maybe it’s double or treble up there I honestly don’t know. Might be better to ask a QS in the area. Let us know how you get on because I genuinely can’t get over this.

Yup, afraid so

Tell them to hold tight the construction industry has contracted for the last 9/10 months meaning there is less demand for construction work and you have to take this information and using it with the record rate of new houses built last year meaning that construction of new homes increased meaning the likes of the extension work must be in a serious state of contraction and if it continues the gouging will have to stop or companies will be slamming into the wall. IMO 160k for that extension is taking the pi$$ all construction raw materials with the exception of plywood has been coming down over the last 3 to 6 months. Tell them to hold tight and when the work is completely gone which will happen after another interest rate hike or 2 as access to cheap funding will be gone the way of the dodo for a lot of people trying to get work done.

A bit more reasonable but still overpriced if you can wait another 12 months prices for extensions will see a drop as the continuation of interest rate increases will stop a lot of people from getting work done and the lads in the game will actually have to compete again for work.

Im not sure it will drop. There was article recently on costs of blocks and cement rising 10%

The bank don't send a surveyor they ask you to get a valuation and survey is up to you. Did they get a pre purchase survey, it would have looked at the structure and might have checked the fuse board was a modern consumer unit. They likely recommended getting electrical checks done.

It's easy to sport of a house has old wiring. Are the switches and light fittings old. Are the sockets in the skirting boards. What does the fuse board look like.

Same with heating, are the radiators old, are the pipes copper or iron (gun metal)

Wow. I get you.

As I pointed out before 160k for an extension is a joke, keep calm construction output is down -11% in December 2022 from December 2021 that figure is down -7% on the year previous December 2020. So when you throw in that we had record new builds last year so there was an increase in output in that sector this means that the decrease is even bigger in areas like extensions. Another year of interest rate rises and other areas of spend that are necessities like food and energy and the big ticket items like extensions will have to see prices drops or those companies will hit the wall.

The figure for -11 is also down over a period where we were still in lockdown which when you think about it is fairly shocking.

The construction lads are having their final milk before reality sets in.

https://tradingeconomics.com/ireland/construction-output

I would be waiting prices will drop by at least 10% by this time next year. The construction lads will actually have to compete for work again.

We bought a 45 year old bungalow 6 years ago which needed extensive modernisation inside and out which is still ongoing.

To date i have spent approx 30k in renovations.

Fortunately i have been able to save quite a bit of money by doing a lot of the stuff myself as a keen DIYer with the exception of the more complex electrical and carpentry works.

Due to budget constraints, i have been doing this piecemeal over the last 6 years and i still have a long way to go but i dont mind.

A house refurbishment is an ongoing process and when you think you have finished evrything, the cycle starts again.

Some will some wont, anyone with a family wont why would you bring your kids to such a place? Anyone young free and single may go over. We are now seeing an over 20% reduction in people getting work done in things like extensions in the last 2 years and this will continue with interest rates rising. Also there is a big if and when about the war as it looks like neither side is going to concede any time soon.

Raw materials have all dropped over the last 6 months with the exception of plywood

Plenty of people will do Mon-Fri work and fly home at the weekend if the money is good. Builders and trades people are in short supply in all developed countries and there's always somewhere booming. If building contracts here the builders will move.

Are you in the trade?

Some items have dropped marginally, but many many more haven't dropped a bit or are in fact increasing in price still. Cement being the big one. Diesel and energy hasn't really dropped to the point where it has been passed on and its likely to remain steady rather than drop.

Tradesmen are very difficult to get and more difficult to pay for their time.

I am not saying things won't be cheaper this time next year, but it's just as likely that they wont be as will be.

Housing is a mess - they literally aren't building enough to keep up with a rising population and until that equation goes more in favour of house building then not much will change.

Higher interest rates make it more expensie for developers to finance as well, its not just something that effects the buyers.

I've yet to see build costs come down significantly since the turn of the year (based on conversations with QS') with labour still very hard to come by

Locally there's planning for approximately 170 units in two estates for the past 3 years or so, none of them have started yet. The council have a bank of land bought for the past 4 years or so, with 90 houses "planned" but not a tap done yet.

Single housesv are very very difficult to get planning for and more difficult to finance. None of this is getting any easier.

As fas as the OP is concerned, its expensive to get any work done. Gamble to next year but it is a gamble

Have an offer on a house that will need a full rewire and replumb. 105sqm. I want to move the old fuse board location out of the garage into the house. From researching the web, have assumed 15k.

The current heating system is oil which I’ll want changed to gas. So need a new boiler, 10 rads, tank is old and then I’ll need to bring gas in from the road. Checked the gas website and there’s gas within 15m of the house and they said the cost to connect would only be 250 - is that right? Does that include road closure costs, path and road remediation etc? If that’s the case, I’ve assumed another 15k for that as well.

Am I out to lunch with these estimates? Obviously will get quotes in once the offer is accepted but need high level costs now so I can get my head around total costs.

Ok grand. So essentially aside from the 250, only costs are then on the internals - everything outside the footprint of the building is covered?

I agree I had some rewiring done and had 4/5 lads out looking and quoting within a week. Maybe the poster was not really trying lots of sites with lists of tradesmen to do work for you.