Harry and Meghan - OP updated with Threadbanned Users 4/5/21

Hated more than a serial killer? That's referring to Clarksons article and Rose West presumably? Hands up everyone who agreed with Clarkson? Anyone? Applying such broad stroke hate to everyone is part of the annoyance. It's taking one example via selective bias and creating a narrative from it e.g. someone might use Clarksons article and argue that the whole British Press is toxic, anti-H&M. That is one person writing a ridiculous opinion piece article which was roundly condemned for how toxic it was. He was quite clearly wrong. Clarksons apology was commented on by Harry and Meghan. I would say they did so because they had thousands of complaints propping them up and his article genuinely deserved their contempt. However, South Park refers to the Princess of Canada as an Instagram Loving Bitch Wife. Isn't that worth commenting on also? There is nothing propping them up to comment on it because it was a well received episode which had done it's homework and made on the nose satirical points. The surprising thing was what took them so long to have them as a subject.

 You'll get some people who genuinely hate them. You'll get people who latch onto conspiracy theories about them. You'll get people making youtube videos scrutinising their clothes looking for wires etc. You'll also get people pointing out their hypocrisies, their falsehoods, their interminable PR manifesting etc. They're not one and the same. The best part of the South Park episode for me was where Kyle is the only one riled up by their hypocrisy. The rest could care less about some dumb prince and his stupid wife. Kyle tries to ignore the Prince and Princess. He tries his best but he comes home to see magazine covers splayed over his house. He ignores it and thry make it out that it's because the princess is ethnic. Kyle tries to ignore a blue todger rubbing against his window. The show just summed the whole thing up so well within the space of a minute.

Lol thats rich coming from you.

Again, Im perfectly calm, Im simply trying to focus on what it is you are saying. What you are accusing us of. You are the one constantly throwing out accusations at the rest of us. For example, you keep implying that I get my info from the DM or some other rag, yet you refuse to say where you get your evidence to refute the DM.

I'm not taking any of this personally. I just dont have any patience for this "debate" style of yours. Honestly, its coming across as trolling. It reminds me of that old Derren Brown mind trick. Someone comes at him angry and arguing about I dont know, parking in his spot. And Derren responds by talking about something completely different like a gone off cabbage. Which distracts and confuses the angry man, allowing Derren to sidle away or calm things down. I'm mangling the story but hopefully you get my point. Its the same tactic employed by you. Someone mentions something anti-H&M and you either throw out a Daily Mail accusation or bring up Andrew again or something equally irrelevant. Or in this case claim I've flown into a wild rage.

Is Jeremy Clarkson a poster in here? How is he relevant to what we were talking about? Very convenient you didnt read the rest. Very convenient indeed.

Have a great weekend everyone! Hugs n kisses!

How is he relevant to us talking about them receiving unnecessary hate? I'm not sure if that's a serious question. Enjoy your weekend!

…The bottom line is, they still need media and spotlight to generate income - dollars, pounds, shillings and pence- since that interview we’ve certainly learned more about them and their motivations and their hates- but I’m not sure we’ve learnt much about their goals and I’m not sure a whole lot has changed since Harry was recorded on camera promoting Meaghan at an official royal duty appearance for doing voice overs .

Besides the need to actually make money, and dreaming up ways to be both “relevant” “brandy” and Royal as they make that money, I’m struggling to see what they can bring to any party- and I think they are too. They’re living in one of the most fickle places in the world where human beings are brushed aside like a spec of dandruff from your collar and everyone there is trying to do the same thing - be relevant, in vogue and of course make money.

That’s why I think South Park was just so brilliant- they “got” it.

And my own personal view is - I think it’s given Meaghan one hell of a wake up call -I would not like to be Meaghan right now- that show totally annihilated her “brand” - and that’s the one THING, she treasures more than anything else in this world.

Hmmm..Well I believe this has all stemmed from his ITV interview back a number of weeks ago when promoting his book- and essentially stating that any positive engagement with his immediate family needs to start with them-Daily Mail have been running similar stories for the last week or more- so it’s not “news”, per se- but that’s not a criticism of you posting the article either.

My point is, Harry essentially gave an ultimatum in that interview that the ball was firmly in his families court in terms of apology and what not- as the coronation is getting closer, this is becoming more of an issue.

Are the papers fishing for a story? Quite possibly.

Have the family reconciled behind the scenes? It’s possible but I don’t think so. Media are still reporting that William is still miffed with Harry’s book-while they could indeed be trolling the RF, my personal view is they’re not, as Harry and William reconciling in advance of Charles coronation would be much bigger news.

The last number of weeks has been a plateau of news re:H&M- very little has happened (except of course South Park)- so my view is, this article is anticipating either some sort of truce in the feud, or a definitive “Harry’s not going” statement in the coming days- the coronation itself is obviously planned well in advance so we’re bound to hear a definitive soon on Harry’s attendance- my guess is, Harry will go but Meaghan will stay away.

They’re not “hidden” if you read the Daily Mail😀- all those stories were there in the last week.

How are the RF keeping emphasis on H&M? I don’t understand- it might be currently convenient that H&M stories are getting more traction than the above stories you mention, but it’s hardly within the control of the RF?

Philip could never be called king because king has a higher rank than queen and he wasn't the monarch.

How is that not sexism?!

Absolutely. It just always annoyed me the reasoning why PP wasn't allowed be called King!

It's the same thing!

The late queen was queen in her own right because she was the daughter of a king. Her mother was queen consort because she married a king.

She was still called queen and later queen mother when her daughter became queen.

BBC online have had several articles as details for the coronation were being released, I'm sure other outlets have reported on it too.

The BBC even mentioned which crown would be used for Camilla as the crown with the Koh-i-Nur diamond will not be used as it's ownership is disputed.

Indeed- and here is said article from your favourite tabloid and mine 😛

Its great soap opera if true and it will do nicely for Harry’s Waaagghh part 2 book.

So if they visit Engerland where are they going to stay? Probably an “apartment” somewhere in one of the palaces where the Kent’s live in Kennsignton palace

Can you "evict" people who haven't lived at a property in years and don't intend to ever again?

Calm down dear. You’ll give yourself indigestion

Sorry was just too funny, solid reply though.