Dublin GAA Discussion Thread: Mod Note - No 'Dublin Dominance' chat allowed!

Agreed That Ref gave us absolutely nothing some of the handiest frees given to derry I have ever seen. Marty showing his true colors ye can hear the glee in his voice when Dublin lose.

Poor decision making in possession is killing us. Seems to be a trait of Dessie's reign as it was quite rare to see under Gavin

Gannon is a very handy footballer, lads.

Con struggling since the injury?

True… We need to rely on referees getting the basics right however. This wasn’t a judgement call. It was a colossal shîtshow by the ref. Timekeeping is an absolute basic, kids, parents, basically anyone with two eyes and a watch and a decent cognitive function can call 4 minutes and blow it up after 4. Can’t blame the sending off, it happened at the sideline and Fitzsimons more or less just walked and descent was minimal and not significant. What delay there was was in no small part to Derry players, harassing, jostling etc..… Issuing a red card is part of play, no law, rule or regulation to stop the watch or add on time to facilitate the momentary stoppage and card issuance… so where the hell did the extra minute and a half come from ? 😵‍💫 4 signalled and closer to 6 played ! Wtf is that about ? Around 45% more time added , just because ? What ?

beyond annoying the levels of refereeing and how the absolute plunge into the depths of endemic incompetence by them seems to be impacting the sport now, across the country….negatively. Pathetic. GAA ‘leadership’ need to get a handle on it…. If you can’t be trusted with such a basic as to manage time using a watch how the sweet fück can you be trusted to manage marginal calls, tough game changing decisions in one of the fastest, free flowing, all action sports on the planet…. ? Croke Park need a good shake as pertaining to this current lot of referees. It and they need sorting.

division two my arse tonight was a 3rd and 4th place play off of the all ireland series , plus nothing has changed , the standard of division one is actually quiet poor this year they are at least 4 teams if not 5 worse then derry and dublin at the moment

and yes i do think at least 3 fouls inside the dublin D area late in the second half were incredibly soft , as for tanning up division 2 , clare and cork dublins last two opponents were 1/4 finalists last year , where's the likes of monaghan , roscommon , tyrone , donegal were all out

i think cork will go close to upsetting kerry in munster this year , while no matter what clare do they will always be seen as a carlow or waterford of the football world , if kildare or meath had some of the lads we have at the moment half the country would be raving about them

100% agree ref Dessie , the man needs to go , he has had 3 years with this team and they are still playing like headless chickens

Dublin are just too used maybe to having that 9/10 midfield and a couple of able replacements. Now…They have the best midfielder in the country in Fenton. Lahiff just isn’t as talented, a decent footballer, but he’s 28 and played relatively little football, inexperienced comparatively at this level and the inexperience tends to show occasionally.

McCarthy is 34 next birthday… had few injuries and super fit in general but the hustle and bustle of a championship midfield… played a lot of football, too. Looks after himself and always available, still is but that has its disadvantages….. a lot of miles on that clock….

Ye can blame the ref all you want but that lost is a typical Dessie defeat. The lad doesn't know what his team should be and it bloody well shows. Shambles from the sideline in them at second half and more of the same from a lad who still thinks he's managing U21 football.

I don't think there is much difference or any between Derry, Cork and Dublin and any Div 1 team. Cork have a nice team coming again.

I've seen Kerry, Armagh, Donegal, Tyrone, Monaghan play in Div 1 this league and wasn't impressed by any of them.

I'm not 100% sure but i think Galway won the All Ireland from Div 2.

Where's Comerford and Paddy Small atm? Is Robert McDaid available these days? Has Mannion made any signs of been ready to feature again?

Can't find this info anywhere haha.

I was wondering as well what Dessie is going to do with Rock?

Outside of Leinster it is basically like the way 1970's Dublin used to have Jimmy Keaveney as a luxury, walking around the place. The last intercounty footballer I can think of (that used to wander around like that) and just nail frees was Cork's Colin Corkery. With the hill calling him a fat bastard.

It was very noticeable that Rock got no scores there yesterday. Contributed nothing in a game where you needed workrate and mobility. But then you are left with the problem who takes the frees? Costello? Mannion when he comes back?

It suddenly has the feel of 00's Dublin all over again. I seem to remember Paddy Christie taking frees against Westmeath when Dublin lost under Lyons. That really was desperation. The next thing we will have is some fella will be talk up as the 'new' free taker. I well remember how Wayne McCarthy from Erin's Isle was talked up as the next sharpshooter. The whole logic was that he used to help Charlie Redmond train!

How old is Mossy Quinn could he come out of retirement and do a better job than Rock? Now I really am scraping the barrel.

There was one time not so long ago where Dublin were that spoiled they had a right footed mobile freetaker and left footed mobile freetaker. That seems like another lifetime ago now already!

Now we are dependant on a static Rock who is becoming as immobile as his surname. Should Rock not just be training one of the younger lads on the panel with technique and so on? So Dublin are not left in the situation where they are in either a feast or famine when it comes to freetakers. Freetaking can be taught surely? Let a mobile fella do it.

It is the nature of the collapse that gets me. Manager should be saying keep it tight lads etc at HT. I would deffo have brought on a third midfielder at HT. And that is not being wise after the event either the dogs in the street know Glass and Rodgers are key to Derry. But another body in there to prepare for the likely Derry onslaught.

Jim Gavin's Dublin collapsed once v Donegal. When grey haired Christie Toye came on and changed the game. Meanwhile Jim had Bastick getting splinters in his arse on the bench. But Jim learned his lesson. Does Dessie look like he will learn ANY of his?

As you say it is typical Dessie defeat. A small bit of pressure that the team folds. He doesn't make switches until it is way too late. The rate this is going most teams with any sort of organisational nous or fight in them will fancy a scalp of 'the dubs'. Feck sake Clare were damn unlucky not to get the win. Clare in Croke Park. It would have been their biggest win in football since the 1992 Munster win.

I remember watching Lochra Gael on TG4 it was some fella was outside Dublin basically saying that they knew that 00's Dublin would fold eventually in game under any sort of pressure. which annoyed me how blatant he was saying it. But he was spot on It is basically back to that now.

You can try and teach any free taker technique and all that goes with it and improve that player for sure but Rock was born with a natural gift for it that i've never seen in any other player and we'll be waiting a long time to get someone as gifted at place kicking as him again regardless of coaching.