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KBC exiting Ireland

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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,106 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    If your card has transferred to BOI why would you expect your KBC card work?



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Will BOI pull the mortgage payments from N26 or Revolut?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 111 ✭✭bindybandy


    I had a KBC credit card only (no current account or mortgage) so I tried using the BOI app today to see if I could view my balance etc - seems you have to have a current account with BOI to use the app. I phoned their support line and while they were plesant to talk to they did not know what to do nor could they tell me what the balance was so not off to a great start with BOI so far. It's not the front line staff's fault but those managing this transition that should have trained them better or provided a list of FAQ's for them to refer to. Did anyone else find a way to get around this problem as there must be others in same boat as me? Hopefully the lad I spoke to will call me back with a solution but the spidey sense is tingling based on past dealings with customer support teams - the hairs on my arms still stand up if somebody days "EIR" to me :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 154 ✭✭derekbro


    I had a credit card and got a letter about setting up the new BOI credit card with the BOI app to work with it. The details were in the letter and I have it working. Don't have a BOI current account.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,742 ✭✭✭tnegun


    I had only a CC with KBC and it took two calls to get the app setup last week the first took 30mins with the agent telling me it wasn't possible despite me having a letter saying I could do it, they claimed it was wrong so I gave up and called back the next agent had the app working in 5 minutes!! I had similar problems activating the card itself wasted 30mins on the phone, then went to the branch and wasted more time before calling the call centre again and the agent had it sorted in 5 minutes! There seems to be 2 call centres in action their normal one and an overseas one that has been hired to assist with the move of KBC accounts. The overseas is useless very nice to speak to and tripping over themselves to help to but can't or don't know how.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭walterking


    Bank of Ireland have paid back every cent and substantial interest. KBC did not get a bailout.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 637 ✭✭✭feargantae


    Anyone know if topping up Revolut with the CC is treated as a cash advance? I know it technically is but with KBC they never charged any fees for doing it, it was handy at times! They just treated it as a normal card transaction



  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 5,028 Mod ✭✭✭✭G_R


    BOI just treat it as a normal purchase transaction too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭padyjoe


    I can confirm that the BOI app works in case of CC only. Their approach is PITA, the KBC app works offline if you want to use the codes for logging into your account on desktop, the other one is shouting for internet all the time.

    The other thing should be wary of android version on your phone. As a fan of older phones, my version is not always up to date. While KBC is happy with android 7, BOI needs no. 8, there is a BOI app which shows in the play store for older OS but it's obsolete, won't work.

    It's a stupid way of forcing you to use a newer phone. They should have a warning or a notification that you need Oreo, Nougat is no good anymore.

    All in all, life is a great director, I left BOI 10 years ago because they've lost their love for their customers, now back to square one again! And I had a UB account too. Major headache to reshuffle my banking!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,084 ✭✭✭✭Seve OB


    I got a letter the other day about my regular saver moving to BOI. It told me I need to set up a new DD. It also said I could do it straight away but in the next paragraph told me I won’t get my BOI account number till after the 23 Feb (I think, don’t have letter in hand atm)

    how can we set it up without account number. Unless I missed something in the letter it didn’t say how



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭padyjoe


    I had a quick look, Seve: you can put down your KBC account onto the form before transfer date or you'll have your new number by 23rd. Transfer will happen between 17-20th Feb.

    EDIT: the blackout is going to happen from 17th 3pm til' 20th 9am for savings accounts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,518 ✭✭✭NinjaTruncs


    Will savings account automatically show up in the BOI app?

    My credit card automatically appeared in my BOI app, but my savings accounts haven't shown up yet.

    4.3kWp South facing PV System. South Dublin



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,094 ✭✭✭Daith


    Would my direct debit date with BOI for my mortgage be the same date as KBC? So far they seem later than KBC.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭padyjoe


    No, BOI is playing a dumb game. Savings won't show automatically, you need to request them to add those to your account.

    But there is a catch: you have to put in your account number and it's not enough, then select what type if savings product it is, if it doesn't match, you are refused and start again the guessing game.

    They have p1ssed me off already with this.

    After the s.a. has been added, I can see the balance but it's greyed out, can't do a thing.

    Time to move banks again, I had left them 10 years ago, they have not improved a bit, I can tell you!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 670 ✭✭✭Fishy1


    Is it still necessary to actually go into one of the KBC Hubs to close any remaining current accounts or can it be done via the app? Most Hubs are closing next Friday, 10th March.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 253 ✭✭mct1


    @Fishy1 There's no facility to close via the app. No hub near me anyway so apparently we've to write a letter.

    @padyjoe BOI tell me the s.a. greyed outness should be fixed for anyone who also has a current account by 15 March. Meanwhile you can ring to request a transfer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 858 ✭✭✭raxy


    They updated the app before with an option to close but that's gone now. You don't need to close your C/A. If you just leave it empty they will close it after the deadline automatically. That's what I'm going to do.



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 10,456 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    If they can't clearly identify you then it would be a breach of GPDR to do anything other than to require you to actively participate in making the link. Would you be happy if they accidentally linked you account to some relation or someone with the same name????



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,309 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    You have to call PTSB to authorize a card in Google Pay, my girlfriend is having a lot of grief trying to move bank and their app is so far behind in technology, it's amazing how they haven't improved much if at all since we left then 3 years ago. Surprised KBC's app didn't make other banks actually get the finger out and improve.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,094 ✭✭✭Daith


    KBC departing means the three main banks have even less of a reason to change.

    Revolut is the only at the moment that is even close to frightening them.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭Citrus_8


    Agree. I was with PTSB for just a month. That's right, a month was how long I could stay with them as everything is backwards with them. Call to add a card to Google Wallet, no finger print on login, they also did a mistake with by booking time - emailed me with a wrong date and when I showed up, even though they admitted, they couldn't help me at that time I have got the time booked for. Maybe I wasn't lucky, but the service is definitely isn't worth 6 Euro a month. BOI is slightly better. I like AIB, however, they should improve their app and reduce the charges. I absolutely loved KBC: long customer service opening hours comparing to the lazy Irish banks, very accurate customer service (maybe good training is being provided), branches were open for longer hours than the lazy Irish banks', app was great... EBS and Revolut/N26 is what I would recommend to people now to avoid charges. EBS is crap, but free, so instantly expectations are low which. Their strong side is that a customer service is quick to answer and very good providing any information. A bit slow, extremely outdated, but free. Irish banks who charge for a current account should definitely invest more into IT and close some branches, the remaining branches should work longer hours, staff could do shifts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,088 ✭✭✭fjon


    Do any of the other Irish banks have fingerprint/ Face ID on their apps? It was handy on the KBC app, but not a deal breaker.

    I went with PTSB for both current account and mortgage. It's obviously not as good as KBC, but I don't think it's terrible either.



  • Registered Users Posts: 590 ✭✭✭CrookedJack


    Both AnPost and BOI have fingerprink unlock, at least on their android apps



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Speedsie
    ¡arriba, arriba! ¡andale, andale!




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭Citrus_8


    An Post, AIB, BOI and Avant has it. The only one PTSB from the Irish banks doesn't. And, obviously, EBS, who doesn't even have an actual app to use online banking. I think you should try other European banks to compare and see how Irish banks (and not just that, but also many other things in Ireland, such as, education, health systems, infrastructure, public transport, plastic deposit scheme etc etc, are so behind!).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 858 ✭✭✭raxy


    Didn't AIB or BOI try close more branches & there was uproar & they back tracked!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭Citrus_8


    Yup, nimbys are everywhere. People still using cheques and cash... What else a branch is for I have no idea. I think, the third of all the BOI and AIB branches could be easily closed. Most of things should be done online these days, including the video calls for mortgage meetings, investment etc... Cheques can be posted with a registered post or lodged at some ATMs. Don't need these costly bank branches. It's inefficient to keep that many of them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,459 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    We miss you KBC



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,699 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Anyone know what happens if someone tries to make a payment to the card of a now closed down account, does it bounce back to them or what happens? I was with Ulster not KBC but would imagine its the same for both



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭Citrus_8


    Payments are done into a bank account, not a bank card. If account is closed, the payment will bounce back into those, who paid, account.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,699 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 858 ✭✭✭raxy


    I see the option to close account us back in the app.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,309 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    Bank of Ireland want you to go to a branch in person to close a savings account. Honestly it's a bloody savings account with nothing in it. You can verify your identity over the phone with security questions. Why do I need to show ID in person? PTSB sent me a letter to sign and return to close my account in the past.

    10-4, Monday to Friday. How are people supposed to do that?



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    What happens if you just leave it open with nothing in it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 858 ✭✭✭raxy


    Nothing, if you don't close it KBC will after the closure date they sent you. I'll be leaving it open just in case.

    The last direct debit from my account finished last month but I'll leave the account open just incase there's something I forgot. Just got a refund from revenue & my refund went to revolut but my wife's went to the KBC account.



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  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 5,028 Mod ✭✭✭✭G_R


    Not nesescarily. It may be returned, but it may also get rerouted to an internal bank suspense account, at which point they should call you to see where you want them to sent it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 637 ✭✭✭feargantae


    Sorry for dragging up an old thread but hoping someone can help. I'm after getting a refund for a purchase made on Amazon/Klarna to my KBC credit card. Obviously this card is now closed but Klarna say they cannot refund to anywhere other than the original card and tbh didn't seem to understand what I meant. Waiting on a response from KBC but in the meantime does anyone know what might happen? Cheers



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭Citrus_8


    Happened to me some time ago with two other banks. In both cases the bank contacted me by email asking for an alternative IBAN and transfered funds to my new bank. However, I'm not sure what's the KBC's process.



  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 5,028 Mod ✭✭✭✭G_R


    It should just bounce to a holding account in KBC and they should contact you looking for somewhere to forward it on to.

    Contacting them in advance of this will prob speed up the process.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 637 ✭✭✭feargantae


    KBC got in touch and said it's nothing to do with them and to contact Bank of Ireland! I responded that the refund was sent to my KBC card and not the replacement BOI card. In the meantime however the refund has appeared in my Revolut account and according to Klarna staff in the event something like this happens they'll try whatever the primary card is on the account and then the next card down the line until one goes through.

    So it seems the original Klarna staff was just wrong!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭Citrus_8




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,459 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Cleared account and let KBC close it, then got letters saying I earned 2c interest and to fill out a form to get it back, now BoI are sending me the letters. Just my two cents



  • Registered Users Posts: 824 ✭✭✭setanta1984


    Getting the same same well, letters telling me my balance is 1c even though I emptied it and was 0.00 on the closing date in the kbc app.

    Can't be bothered filling out paper forms and physically posting them, for essentially nothing... but seems like they'll keep pestering about it?



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Can you not go into the app and transfer the 1c to a non KBC account?

    That's what I did



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,309 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    When you close the account it asks you to nominate a payee for future payments? At least that's what I got in the app.



  • Registered Users Posts: 364 ✭✭Rock Steady Edy


    They should have capitalised the interest on current account closures, but haven't done this and so tiny amounts get added at the end the quarter after closure. I also notice they didn't capitalise the interest on my deposit account when they sent it to the Bank of Ireland, which seems odd. You'd think KBC should pay the interest up to the point of transfer and Bank of Ireland thereafter.

    I called KBC about my 1c last week and they said the only way to stop getting letters is to withdraw the amount.

    I was told you can add "Freepost" to the envelope so it doesn't cost more to send than you get back.

    So I completed the form, sent it off and got my 1c a day later...

    At least An Post will get credit from KBC if we all send these forms back.

    All very silly, they should just give it to a nominated charity or something.

    Post edited by Rock Steady Edy on


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 5,028 Mod ✭✭✭✭G_R


    The interest does capitalise on closure, but what happens is;

    - people withdraw and bring balance to zero,

    - send the closing instruction,

    - then when its processed, the accrued interest up to that point is capitalised leading to the CR balance, and the account isn't closed.

    There's no interest being applied to closed accounts.

    Also, you can nominate to send any credit balance to charity, but you need to tell them that. They can't suggest it, and certainly can't do it without customers permission. 99% of reasonable people wouldn't care, but you would absolutely have some wagon who would complain that their money was given away without their permission.

    Re the deposit accounts, they would have worked out how much it was up to point of transfer and sent that money to BOI to apply to accounts whenever it's due. Assume this was done so that there was no change to the Ts and Cs of the account which probably state something like interest is capitalised annually etc etc.



  • Registered Users Posts: 364 ✭✭Rock Steady Edy


    My memory might be a bit hazy on this, but I think the literature from KBC suggested that if you'd transferred your salary / DDs / payees on your current account and brought your balance down to zero that effectively your account would close, so this might be the reason that they're ending up with accounts that have 1c in them.

    The interest rate on the former KBC regular saver account hasn't increased from 1% since it was transferred in February, despite several rate increases since. Time to start drip-feeding it into a Supersaver regular saver account (2%) and re-claiming the large margin the Irish banks are making from their deposits with the ECB.

    Post edited by Rock Steady Edy on


  • Registered Users Posts: 364 ✭✭Rock Steady Edy


    Just received a cheque this morning from KBC for €50 as compensation for not keeping me informed enough on their rate changes, presumably relates to the savings account I had with them. Nice parting gift, but would rather they were still here providing market competition.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,084 ✭✭✭✭Seve OB


    Got a €50 cheque also yesterday



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