Toyota bz4X

I have started charging my Bz4x from mid February and is doing delivery work. I am using ESB public charging and my app shows a balance of 240 euros. It looks like they haven't taken anything from my bank account. Do I need to call them and pay the bills or will it be taken automatically. I am asking because it has been around two months now.

I think a lot of this will depend on how much drama there is from owners out in the field on the issue.

My main point is that Leafs have had worse issues with rapidgate over the years with surprisingly little drama arising.

Worse in that the Toyotas rapidgate speed is pretty much the Leafs full speed with no rapidgate.

Plus - what's actually the worst aspect of Leaf battery cooling issues isn't the rapidgate reduced charge speed.

But the turtle mode that's activated at 55 to 56 degrees (when viewed on leafspy) battery temperature

Some people have actually treated the latter as a breakdown type issue when it's happened.

That's very expensive usage for three weeks, public charging is mad expensive now. I do 40k per year and it has cost me €350 in electricity since last August, all home charging. Can you get a home charger installed?

Car is very nice, fast acceleration, lots of space, no sound, looks gorgeous and huge compared to Ioniq 5 or Tesla. Nice shape, headlights and day lights look fantastic, back side also looks nice. Everybody is looking at my car; probably bz4x is very rear in roads.

At higher speeds in motorways, I can hear that big noise as we sit in an aeroplane. Not sure this happens in other luxury cars like bmw, benz or Tesla because I never travelled in any of these luxury cars.

Main thing is its appearance. It has a very nice shape and looks big. RAV4 also looks nice,. This one looks beautiful than RAV4.

Since I am driving during evenings and weekends for food deliveries, I am tired of driving. My legs are in pain, sitting long time in car seat. So I am not a person to tell about driving comfort. I always used small cars like Yaris, Fiat Punto etc.. So this car looks so big. In motorways and such nice roads, it is very nice to drive. I usually drive mostly in residential areas, so a lot of bumps and gutters. But the car is so good to park, reverse; it has front sensors and reverse cameras. So better than my previous yaris.

Website says you will get 500 km range; but practically it gives 390 to 420 km on full charge. But here in Ireland we need to switch on either heater or A/C. Then again a 100 km drop. so I would say we will get around 300 plus km range on full charge.

0 to 80 percent charges faster on a fast charger. Rest slow charging.

Its a good car for families or for those working. Not sure its good for taxi drivers, may be they need to charge one more time during a day.

I am doing deliveries on evenings and weekends. On a Sat or Sunday, I drive around 250 kms. So its okay.

a very good option is home night charging. Since my wife kicked me out of my own house and took over, I am sharing in a house, so using public charging. My previous Yaris hybrid costs me around 75 euros per week; this one also the same; I am driving around 750km in a week. If it was home charging it would have cost me only 30 euros.

At the end, I would recommend this car, but if Lexus e version was available, I think I would buy that one.

Its only a house, imagine how the poor CEO Mr. Toyoda feels, losing the company.

The most exciting fact is that on the second day of getting bz4x, I went for charging at Kimmage which has a high power charger. A taxi driver, who is an Irish man was also charging there. He has the same story. He said his wife kicked him out of the house and he is now living in an apartmnt, so using public charger and it costs him much.

.... these wifes.....

I'm due to get mine at the end of the month.... Just in case, I'll have a look to see how the public charge network looks in my neck of the woods

You are right. If you have home night charging its fine. Now I am sitting in my car in this cold rainy evening waiting for delivery. I can see that range is getting reduced by one km every 5 minutes because heater is on. I think this is the case with all electric cars. My previous yaris hybrid was always giving me 22km per litre of petrol whatever be the climate no matter a/c or heater is on.

So I would recommend everyone to buy a hybrid car- my choice will be prius new model for sedan and corolla cross for suvs.

I don't think that's the case in every other EV.

As far as I remember it didn't happen in my ID3, it doesn't happen in my Ioniq 28 and it definitely doesn't happen in my Ioniq 5 as far as I've noticed.

This. Andrew's logic is flawed. It's not so much EVs; it's the BZ4X. I do sympathise. On the bright side you could probably get rid and not make a loss. Someone will want one without having to wait.

You're being silly now. We're just people with an interest in EVs observing a half baked execution. I'm sure none of us work for Hyundai or Tesla. In fact, there are two Toyotas outside the door.

Almost entirely, I have to say they were very fair, but I have also took a strong negotiating position.

In the end, with an extra 10k km more on the car, compared to the mileage given at the time of the deal, I only lost 500 euro.

Not too bad in my opinion, even though we shoukd not be penalised due to Toyota's inability to deliver in time.

I'll be able to provide more info once I'll have the deal done, in order to offer accurate info for all interested.

have you seen the camp mode video of the not to be named car? Over 100h of idling with the AC on in freezing temp. Propaganda

My ID3 didn't. It was a first edition.

Perhaps compared to a Tesla Model 3, but the dimensions wouldn't back that up comparing Tesla Model Y and Hyundai Ioniq 5.