Limerick improvement projects

source · 04-03-2023 10:43am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120312309#Comment_120312309

None of which are more than 2 storeys! Come on, stop being so disingenuous. None of us arguing against this particular design are against a medium density development on the site. But there are ways of doing it so it doesn't overshadow the entire area.

04-03-2023 10:55am

If everything had to be the same height as the buildings around it, all of our houses would be underground.

source · 04-03-2023 11:02am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120312364#Comment_120312364

Again a disingenuous comment which doesn't take into account my actual comments. I'm not asking for it to be 2 storeys. I'm saying that 7 is probably too high in an area where the next biggest building is 2 storeys.

Again, if they put the 7 storey section to the rear of the site where it is considerably lower, they could still have the same, or similar occupancy, and keep the roofline at about 5 storeys.

Once again I'll say it, I'm not asking for no development, I'm not asking for low density. I'm simply asking for some thought to be put into the design so it doesn't have as big an impact.

Cookiemunster · 04-03-2023 12:28pm

Well the council, ABP and the High Court disagree that it's too high for the area.

The 7 storey bit is at the rear of the site. The section at the Cross is 6 storeys.

https://punchescrossstudentvillage.com/

04-03-2023 12:35pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120312384#Comment_120312384

7 stories too high, 5 stories ok? What happens in a few years when everything is 5 stories? Would 7 stories be ok then?

Vanquished · 04-03-2023 1:56pm

The old racecourse and Alandale are complete non runners for large scale residential development unfortunately. The latest Limerick Development Plan has rezoned those areas from residential to enterprise and employment. A flood risk assessment was completed on those lands in advance of the new Development Plan and it concluded that the lands fell within the high risk area known as Flood Zone A. Amendments were adopted to have the zoning of these areas retained as residential but this was shot down by the Office of the Planning Regulator.

Personally I think this is too much of a blunt instrument as it essentially sterilises a large landbank in relative close proximity to the city centre and prevents the sort of compact and sustainable development being promoted by the National Planning Framework.

A student accommodation scheme beside the existing Alandale development was shot down by the Council last year and that will in all probability be uphelp by An Bord Pleanala also.

breezy1985 · 04-03-2023 2:08pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120312333#Comment_120312333

Don't worry there will be many more high rise going up around it to help it fit in.

Comhrá · 04-03-2023 2:13pm

I noticed the new bollards in O'Connell St. are starting to suffer already.

I counted four of them damaged this morning. Their long-term durability and aesthetics are questionable at this stage.

breezy1985 · 04-03-2023 2:30pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120312911#Comment_120312911

I wish they had picked nicer looking ones too. Also stronger ones.

phog · 04-03-2023 3:08pm

There's a good chance they were damaged by the contractor while still working in the area.

I don't know why they didn't go with a narrow planter like they used between the pencils outside the school on Shelbourne Rd

djdunny · 05-03-2023 8:52pm

Stopped at the traffic lights outside Chicken Hut and I’m wondering who thought that it was a good idea to face the benches looking in the windows of the chicken hut.

Poxyshamrock · 05-03-2023 9:47pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120318218#Comment_120318218

AmDram at its best! 😅

LeoD · 06-03-2023 1:30pm

Not that we should be surprised but it is one botch after another. Pedestrians now required to walk single file along O'Connell St thanks to businesses taking over the footpath - a practise fully endorsed and encouraged by the council it seems. As for white cane users, you'd be well advised to steer clear of this obstacle course. No wonder Nuala Gallagher said bye bye to this lot.

breezy1985 · 06-03-2023 2:04pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120320367#Comment_120320367

That really defeats one of the big plus points of this whole project.

Poxyshamrock · 06-03-2023 2:49pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120320367#Comment_120320367

Two lads on the right are in the bike lane too. 🙈

mart 23 · 06-03-2023 3:46pm

The problem if there is a problem are the tree and the bench. Remove them elsewhere.

Glenomra · 06-03-2023 6:37pm

I read in today's Limerick leader that Kirkland Investments are speaking about an 600 million euro development in Ballysimon. I am uncertain whether that figure includes the construction of the Bons Secour Hospital, Educate Together School, Lidl etc or is for other residential and commercial developments. It appears very impressive. For a relatively new 'player' on the investing ladder, with a young ceo, Kirkland are involved in an amazing and welcome number of projects in the city and its environs.

Comhrá · 06-03-2023 7:50pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120321122#Comment_120321122

I'd be pretty confident the tree will be removed in the not too distant future. The bench will be harder to break.

Cookiemunster · 06-03-2023 9:34pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120321856#Comment_120321856

The Leader at it again. Kirklands Towlerton Masterplan has been known about for a few years and was discussed on this thread as recently as January. The school, Bon Secours and the Lidl development are all in the original masterplan area with the lands opened up for development by the road that was recently completed.

It's not in any way the news they're making it out to be.

pigtown · 06-03-2023 11:18pm

Any idea when that road is opening? Seems to be finished a while now

Cookiemunster · 07-03-2023 12:15am

The end of the road built by Kirkland is around 70-80m short of the Bloodmill Road and this bit has to be done by the council. As they have to cross a stream they've asked ABP whether or not they need to do an NIS. If they don't I believe they'll do a part 8 and proceed this year, but if they need to do an NIS then they'll need to send an application to ABP.

pajoguy · 07-03-2023 9:59am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120323292#Comment_120323292

The new road must be complete nearly 2 years. Why was it not dealt with under the original planning and copleted instead of leaving a very poor piece of infrastructure( bloodmill rd bridge) on a heavily trafficked road. Was there an issue with landowner? could it have been CPO'd?

breezy1985 · 07-03-2023 10:41am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120323805#Comment_120323805

Wouldn't the planning only cover the Kirkland bit and not the council bit ?

Cookiemunster · 07-03-2023 11:25am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120323805#Comment_120323805

As breezy suggested, Kirklands land ends at the stream. They built the road to open up their land for development, which it does from the Groody Road. It's up to the council to connect the other end to the Bloodmill Road as it's public land.

bazz26 · 07-03-2023 11:40am

There needs to be a bridge built across that stream in order for the new stretch of road to join with the old Bloodmill Road. It's been sitting there unfinished for at least a year. The plan is or at least was to remove the existing Bloodmill Road road from the sandy stream to the roundabout at Conlan's and instead direct Bloodmill Road traffic straight by the new hospital/school and join the smaller roundabout on the Groody road where the entrance to the Northern Trust campus is.

Red Silurian · 07-03-2023 3:22pm

According to Councillor Joe Leddins facebook page 17 council homes built on council lands were handed over to their tennants today at Gough Place, Rosbrien Road, opposite Lidl