Picard 3x03- 'Seventeen Seconds' ~~ { ** Spoilers Within ** }

They did.

It wasn't a point. It was more of a joke to be honest.

I thought it was funny in a sad that it's true kinda way.

Sometimes I think of Star Trek a bit like police procedurals. They have to make them have shootouts or interesting cases every week when typical police officers never shoot their gun outside of training and investigate the most mundane cases. It's the same for the main crews in Star Trek.

OK. Belay that speculation on my part at the end. I just rewatched it and the divide between Picard and Riker was clearly building from the moment that Shaw transferred command.

3 for 3 so far, if they can get past the next episode without falling off a cliff we’ll be doing better than the previous seasons.

I’ll echo that Crusher’s reasoning for keeping Jack is pretty off character, especially the ghosting the whole TNG crew without warning. It could still be that these were all lies, and Jack isn’t actually Picard’s kid, but for now I’m going to assume he is his kid given the Wrath of Khan theme in much if this episode.

The Raffi scenes just make my heart sink each time I see them. The Worf stuff is good but as soon as I see an establishing scene of a dark city street full of people I have to struggle with the urge to fast forward.

It’s always the same damned thing:

• Raffi has to find someone
• She needs to shake them down for info
• There’s gangsers
• «Drugs are bad, m’kay? Don’t do drugs»

At least the reveal at the end of the Raffi segement was good. I wonder if these renegade Founders have their own renegade Jem Hadar? It’s nice to finally address the Dominion War again. I hope there’s more of this.

I meant that the main crews generally lead much more exciting lives than the typical starfleet officers.

Discovery is either really dark or has horribly obviously CGI looking super white settings. They are also now using a very cheap looking green wall.

The only real way around it is build loads of sets.

I wouldn't say it's the acting at all. Disco has had a bunch of actors I thought were brilliant or at least good in other shows.

It's the writing and direction they are given that's shocking.

"Continuing Adventures of Raffi 'n Worf" For the LOVE OF GOD NO!!!!! STOP. PLEASE....

Or I will use more exclamation marks and capital letters!!!

I was watching this while working on something else. But found that poor enough. My (usual, overvalued) tuppence worth:

The Good:

• Effects work. Looked great.
• The scene with Picard and Beverly WAS great, I must admit. Especially by Picard.
• The nod to Odo

The bad:

• Have they never played Portal? Seriously? All they were missing was a sarcastic AI slagging them off.
• I really don't like that Jack guy or his portrayal. Well, that's not fair, the actor's probably fine but he is SO unlikeable. His protection of Beverly comes across as creepy.
• Beverly is coming across as also being a bit insufferable. Especially with the CMO of The Titan.
• Junior officer just turning up at Seven's place. Really? Smacked of trying to set up another love interest for Seven.
• They spent a lot of money on the Titan set so they are going to get as much use out of it as possible I suppose
• Riker's hesitation. I get it. I know why they brought it in and what it's about but it came out of NOWHERE. Last season(?) Season before(?) Can't remember or care. Anyway, he turned up with a fleet ready to kick ass and take names with a smile on his face. Now he's Burnham. I swear to God, if he starts internally-monologuing...
• Please stop trying to de-age Patrick Stewart. It didn't work in X-men. It didn't here.
• Raffi's still around

The Meh:

• Something a bit off about Worf. I get it, he's supposed to be calmer etc. It's not that. It's his line delivery. I can't put my finger on it but it's not quite right.
• Shouldn't the Changeling have been able to morph out of the cuffs? Or alter appearance during the (boring) chase? I may be wrong about this. It may be an effect mentioned in DS9 of being away from the Link for so long or having not reverted to fluid for so long - Worf did mention this. (Which is why I put it in "Meh" as opposed to "Bad").
• "Captain, The Shrike is doing this" and "Captain, The Shrike is doing that" etc. As if to constantly remind us that, yes, the evil ship is called an evil name and is therefor evil. Surely it would be easier to say "Captain, Enemy is doing this" or "Enemy is doing that"

Half of me is hoping that O'Brien turns up at Daystrom Institute. Half doesn't. 'Cos if he does, it will also be not-quite-right.

If they'd changed shouldn't they have easily been able to take out Worf and Raffi?

So I thought it was more they couldn't due to not having reverted to fluid sufficiently.

I doubt it. Colm Meaney has not acted in Star Trek in years and I do not think he has shown any interest in going back either. He does not even remember any of the lines he would say in DS9. To him it was just a job.

He was not the biggest Trekkie unlike say Brent Spinner or Patrick Stewart who really ìmmersered themselves in there character and loved it. What I mean is they loved there characters but Colm Meaney just done it as a job.

Yeah but...... money!!!

😀

And, hey, that's not a criticism. It's appalling how fast I would sell out if I were him:

"Hi Colm. We'd like you to come back for one cameo in one episode"

"Nah, yer grand, thanks. I'm done with that. Cheers though."

"We'd pay 50K for 1 day and fly you fist class to LA and all the trimmings"

"I got me uniform in the hotpress. Calling a joe to the airport this second!"

Given that Discovery was cancelled probably due to money certain things are starting to make sense. Like having a season in contemporary LA or a season that seems based around a few ship sets.

As long as it doesn't end up like when TNG ended and Berman started sticking his nose into other shows.

The unleashing for Kurtzmann and Paradise might not be a good thing.

Any east Asian would do. Rosalind Chao is Korean and accents aren't genetic she had a pretty neutral American accent in the series.

If accents aren't genetic, then how do you explain Jack Crusher-Picard? 🙃

Ya in fairness after we all slagging it off the show did make a point of explaining it the next week.

The O'Brien kids always had generic American accents or maybe that was the very American sounding Bajoran accent.

According to the "bible" O'Brien was from Killarney (my home town). Sadly never referenced on screen so can't be considered cannon but doesn't stop me from annoying folks saying the greatest engineer in starfleet was from Killarney.

There is actually a well known O'Brien family in Killarney who own a furniture business and live close to my former primary school, so I like to think O'Brien will be born and raised on Rookery Road in Killarney 😉

Why do you not think he was fully? He's a "synth" which is essentially just STP terminology for more advanced versions of the Soong type androids. He's no less an android than Data's mother was.