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Electric Ireland Bill

  • 08-03-2023 10:38am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,009 ✭✭✭


    With Electric Ireland all my life all of my electric bills are usually around the €200 mark had two a few years ago for €300 yesterday I was stunned to receive a bill for €610 nothing different in the house still use the same electrical items as in the past, solid fuel heating with the occasional electric heater plugged in when required does anyone have any idea how this happened or is it the price of electricity today, I emailed them but they said it will be some time to get back to me due to pressure with customer issues. Any help appreciated



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,367 ✭✭✭ongarite


    Forget the price for a moment. Review your bill and look at units used in that billing period. If it's the same as last billing period, then it's solely down to increase in cost per kw.

    You were probably on a yearly deal like 30-40% off which has expired & now paying full price.

    This time last year I was paying 16c per kWh, now paying 39c so 150% increase & also standing charges have increased.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭walterking


    surely the OP know that energy prices have jumped considerably?

    You would have had to had lived under a rock not to have heard all the increases.


    Considering the OP pays little heed to news, my guess is they do not avail of any discounts or move supplier (takes 2 minutes) - up to last you you could get average 30% off by switching.


    Your unit rate has most likely gone up from 20c to about 45c and standing charges have gone up too. So even if your usage did not change, a €250 bill Jan/Feb 2022 would be about €600 this year if you did not change use (easy to cut down too)


    You may also not have noticed or read that the government gave a total of 4 x €200 rebates (the 4th just landed) and these were applied automatically to your account.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭Smee_Again


    Is this the first you're hearing about the massive increase in electricity costs?

    Your unit rate is probably double what it was last year, maybe more if you never switch. The standing charge has increased too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,009 ✭✭✭Storm 10


    Thanks guys I know prices have gone up did not expect that must check my units used V other bills



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭walterking


    up by about 130%

    Easy to cut back - dishwasher on eco setting (or hand wash with remaining hot water in tank), washing machine on 30 min/ 45 min express wash - never a need for the full programme unless the clothes are utterly filthy. If you have power showers, cut the time used. Lights to LED (should be done already) and if using electric heating, close all the doors and only use in rooms you are using at the time.

    30% usage saving is very easily attained



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,339 ✭✭✭Viscount Aggro


    Be wary of estimated bills. You will need to check against your meter reading, and advise EI.

    Once they take the money by DD, you will not get it back.

    I have been fighting with them for months now.

    If you want stress, ring the customer care line, puts you on hold for 30 minutes, or they hang up on you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,839 ✭✭✭endofrainbow


    Not much help but my most recent bill reduced from 194 to 103. Are you sure it's not an estimated bill OP ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,379 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Was it estimated or not? How many kWh did you use in the period? Compare that to the last few bills. Only then should you be looking at the cost per unit. When did that change? Were you on any discounts etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,009 ✭✭✭Storm 10


    Not sure if it was estimated have to take another look at it thanks for the help I have emailed but believe or not it could take TEN DAYS to get back to me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,366 ✭✭✭DataDude


    Deleted post. Wrong thread



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,177 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    I emailed last week after I spotted on Twitter that someone hadn't been charged the discounted rate they signed up to. Neither was I! Not a peep out of them since so don't hold your breath!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭Smee_Again


    Check out their customer charter, if they don't meet their own deadlines on queries they should pay you €40 compensation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,022 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    I did that last year, but rejected it as it was not fair on them due to C-19 staffing pressures



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,177 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    Thanks, they've another few days to go but I'll be watching like a hawk. Must say that that's a terrible turnaround time to start with, 10 working days, more time with the money they've overcharged me



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 132 ✭✭MikeCairo78


    You can recall any direct debit up to 8 weeks after it has left your account.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,339 ✭✭✭Viscount Aggro


    Yes, but they can represent the DD.

    Another point to note, they will not refund you the Govt. credits, and the credits cant be used against previous bills.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I was shocked to get our high bill through this week I thought we were supposed to get another credit?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭walterking


    The problem is thousands of people don't listen to news and do not know there's a war in Ukraine and do not know energy prices have jumped substantially.

    They then get a bill about 2.5 times the equivalent last year and instead of knowing that the price has gone up 2.5 times they ring the supplier and argue for 30 minutes.

    This holds up genuine calls.



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,109 Mod ✭✭✭✭whiterebel


    They were that bad ever before the war in Ukraine.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53 ✭✭trishabon


    My EI app does not work. The operator told me that it's faulty anyway. That he'd give me the paperless discount and continue to send paper bills. That was last year. I have not received any bills and cannot access my account online because I don't have a password and any attempts to reset the one I never had are futile.

    I'm terrified of waking up one day with a massive bill and not enough funds in my account. Trying to actually speak to someone is a nightmare. I'm on chronic pain meds and have dozed off while on hold twice.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    There was no sign of it written on the bill, whereas the previous credit was shown on the bill.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,177 ✭✭✭✭Caranica




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,059 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    My email has been with them for 7 weeks now. Just saying...

    Estimated bill is my guess for OP, although even if accurate with a reading, the cost has risen substantially. But we were warned, and got a couple of very welcome credits.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,713 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge




  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Did that too no sign or mention of the credit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 142 ✭✭Jaymacc


    Did you get a new smart meter installed lately?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,120 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    The war had been going on a long time. The bills have only shot up now. It's the lag of the wholesale price, expiring discounts and high estimated bills and just when the govt credit was applied. Mine is estimated twice the usage than the same time year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,713 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Can you not give an actual reading if it's estimated too high?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,120 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    Yes? I send in a reading now and then. Seems to be read every 2nd bill. Usually estimated bills aren't that far away from actual usual usage. This is the first time I've even seen such a massive disparity between them. Its way off. Why would they estimate I'd use twice the amount of energy than the highest I've ever used. Wasn't even a particularly cold winter.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,785 ✭✭✭✭Paul Tergat


    Flinty, that’s last year’s weather news. This is this year’s:





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,120 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    Lol.

    I just think its a very happy confluence for the energy providers to have issued so many unusually high estimated bills for THIS billing period considering the context of what's going around it, energy credits etc. I don't think the lag in wholesale rates really explains it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,009 ✭✭✭Storm 10


    After three emails about my bill they finally came back to me and told me that I had got a smart meter fitted and when they checked the old meter the bills had been self assessed by them and not read so they charged me for the old meter difference and that's where the high bill came from, they also told me that they could have given me a bigger bill but settled on the one I got, They are constantly sending me emails to sign up for the smart meter to get different tariffs and cheaper electricity now I heard that its not a good idea to do this as they try to put you on pay as you go or pay monthly, anyone any pointers on the smart meter.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,545 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    So they told you that a smart meter was fitted and now they want you to sign up to a plan for it. Were you not asked for consent to fit it in the first instance?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,009 ✭✭✭Storm 10


    No guy just knocked on the door and told us they were replacing all old meters with smart meters knew nothing about it to be honest could I have refused it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,188 ✭✭✭Dr_Colossus


    You should have received a letter in the post a few weeks prior and that if you wished to process that the electricity would be disconnected for about 15mins while they swapped out the meter. Also if you meter was inside the house someone would have to be present to grant them access.

    That said I don't think there's any advantage to keeping the old meter and refusing the smart meter especially if you've a standard 24hr meter. You have have the smart meter and just not switch to a smart meter plan which can be more expensive depending on usage. Once you have the smart meter some time you can get a breakdown of your day, peak and night usage and determine from that if there's any savings to be had from a smart meter plan.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,582 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    I dont have a have a smart meter and could not log into my online account.

    I rang with phone number on the bill and have gotten through a number of times and got my old email address updated and can now log into my accounts and fill in meter readings.

    Paying E108 so i dont think switching would be cheaper on twin accounts.

    Still have good credits in there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 411 ✭✭NotInventedHere


    I suggest everybody that is in stable living situation should move to paying your utilities by estimated standing order regardless of discounts if you can. I know it's not for everybody but it has saved my ass during this escalating bills situation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,275 ✭✭✭bobbyss


    Yes I got a bill recently and also was shocked. I called their customer service to get advice.

    One said I could go to Home Electric Plus Plan: 5.5% reduction in unit cost and 100euro credit. 12 month contract.

    Went on their website and did not see any plan called Home Electric Plus. And saw no mention of any 100 euro credit anywhere.

    Will have to think about next step.

    Worst of all was I could not understand the agent as her English was not at all clear. She also was not understanding me at any level. She did not really engage with my concerns. Just trotted off stuff. Then the line went dead. I called back and asked to speak to someone whose first language was English. Got through to a man with a Dublin accent accent. He spoke too fast and he was really badly trained. It was like he was just off the street and took no time to listen to my concerns at all. He did not even have the correct information to hand.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,860 ✭✭✭Hooked


    I am a demon when it comes to my ESB bill.

    I make sure and read the meter and upload it a few days in advance of the bill. I check units used vs prev. month and having been on 30% discount when we moved - I hounded them after the 12 months were up and managed to get 10% off for this year. I also refused the smart meter...

    My next door neighbour was chatting to me the weekend saying he nearly fell over when he got his bill. It was 660! I told him not to ask what mine was (in jest). He asked. I answered. 140 euro. "But that was after the 200 credit, ya?"" No says I... 140 was the total bill. And we've the same sized house.

    The difference? There's 4 of them AT HOME ALL DAY - with dryer going, oven on, dishwasher, constant showers, etc... We (wife and I) never owned a dishwasher so we don't use it. We air fry or slow cook (oven is rarely on). Dryer gets very occasional use! And I'm showering a lot less at home as I've use of a gym after astro soccer 3 times a week. We are not in the house 8am - 5/6pm, 5 days a week.

    TLDR?

    I'm afraid the more you use... the more it costs! And with the way they're charging - it's only getting worse!



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