Polestar 2

I took one for a test drive -- excellent car.

The only ones they have available (AFAIK) are over the €60K threshold so no grant.

They don't have a dealership as such. They have a car park with a temporary office in Sandyford, Dublin. It is across the road from a Volvo dealer so is related (I assume).

I booked a test drive online.

It was well organised -- we showed up at the appointed day/time, they took driver licence details, showed us around a demo car and told us to come back in an hour or so.The only purchasing option is online.

Very like the Tesla model.

No trade-ins as such but they point you towards the Volvo dealership for that.

Over in the UK to his week, spotted loads of polestars in hertz rental cars (polestars and Tesla's) they look unreal. I like the Tesla look but honestly polestar makes them look old fashioned.

If I'd 53k to spare I'd get one.

Mmm... Personally i4 doesn't do much for me not much of a departure from the high end rep mobiles of the past looks wise. Also would have to find another 15k+ on top of the 53k for one of them right?

You do not want the 53k Polestar, end of.

And the BMW will retain its value better in the long run.

Drive both, make a judgement. You'll quickly find that the fact it doesn't look that different to a 4 series is the least of your considerations.

Thats completely true.

But it will buy you a better car.

I can't stress this enough. Drive the Polestar. Then drive the BM. 5 minutes of driving the i4 and using the driver interface and there won't be a question left in your mind.

If you don't care about driving at all, or the clarity and glitchiness of the infotainment, by all means order a P2 and you'll be very happy.

The i4 has iDrive OS 8 and that has Android Auto.

Yeah I'm not in the boy racer mould looks would be over performance for me. Majority of the time the only time I drive fast only in straight lines, I take it handy on the back roads 😜.

The €53k doesn't seem over expensive for such a car.

I'd class the model Y in the fugly category. Looks like a Frankenstein M3 to me.

I'd still take an M3 over MY, after seeing the polestar would take that over either.

I didn't make up my mind on the model Y until I saw it in the flesh likewise with the polestar.

Y wheelbase is only 1.6 cm longer than the model 3 and 5.6 cm longer overall.

It's slightly wider at 7.1 cm the main difference is the height in dimensions its taller model 3.

It just reminds me of those futuristic bubble top concept cars from the 50's.

Sleek look getting a bit dated now needs a few more angles 😀.

Took one of these for a spin recently, dual motor performance. Was completely underwhelmed. Not sure what I expected but just assumed it would wow me more.

Not as quick as I expected, it felt heavy, and I found the user interface quite confusing. Which I deffo didn’t expect having had Volvos for over a decade.

I do like the look of them still, interior is quite nice, decent materials, and it felt well pretty put together.

Went for a test drive with a friend (think he's put an order in), my take on the P2 was an overall positive experience

The Google Automotive interface is excellent IMO and puts the UI of the EV6 to shame (something so simple as showing me both the expected % of battery on arrival at my sat nav destination and what would be left if I were to make an immediate return journey is excellent and something that should be a basic feature for any car with an integrated navigation system). Google maps extending to the drivers screen was the highlight.

I found the cabin a bit snug (i'm 5 ft 10, so no giant) - the centre console seemed very imposing, almost what I'd imagine an F1 car to feel like - I'd absolutely adjust to it and find it cosy, but it might not work for anyone larger than me.

I tested the FWD Smaller battery without the Plus pack. FWD felt odd as it tried to put the power down while turning, nothing wrong with it but just odd now that I'm used to RWD. Power was fine and in line with the EV6 (brisk enough, won't break your neck every time you boot it). Noise levels were good, seats were comfy. Materials were good but I'd almost say they felt cheaper in more places than the EV6 (again, i could be biased but that was my gut feeling).

The rear seats were tight enough too, they took 2x child seats but again a tall driver might struggle with a rear facing child seat behind them. Boot was fine for a buggy and a couple of bags (but nothing in comparison to say an Enyaq or ID4, due to the fastback shape).

Overall it's a shame the Plus pack can't sneak in under the grant as it would be very hard to beat.

I'd still rate the EV6 or Ioniq 5 above the P2 (comparing like for like price levels) but it's close. I dug out an old list of cars i'd tested to see if I still agree with the order, i'm sure this will cause riots in the subs: EV6 - Ioniq 5 - Polestar 2 - Model 3 (rented for a week, which put me off it) - ID3 - Enyaq - ID4. Haven't had a go in an i4, Model Y, cupra born or Mustang Mach E yet.

That's madness. How can the people who set the price not realise this? They won't sell many at those prices. They need to get aggressive with their pricing. Lower the prices to below M3 equivalent levels for the SR and Dual motor.

How long are the delivery times? I ordered a car from available cars last week.

Can someone explain the Pilot Lite pack with the Polestar 2? Am I correct it doesn't have lane following like say, Tesla Autopilot, where you basically switch it on and the car will stay in lane by itself?

I know it has lane departure assistance, but lane following tends to be a step further

EDIT: Just to be clear I'm not talking about self driving, hands off type system. Just the basic lane following but you're still responsible for driving the car if it sh!ts the bed

Cool, looks like the Travel Assist on my ID.4 and is pretty much what I'm looking for. I find it really handy on motorway trips to take the thinking out of driving long distances

Yes, it still is as of this morning. We’ve booked a test drive of the Polestar 2 for next week but the price difference between it and the Tesla M3 is a big black mark against the Polestar. Surely they’ll have to reduce prices sooner rather than later?

Has anyone got a price on the 2024 model year, delivery is a few months out but just wondering is the pricing the same as the current one?

If I was interested in buying one of these then I would defo wait for the refresh if it’s only 5% more money. That will buy RWD and around 70 extra horses.

I had a drive a while ago and it was very underwhelming. The refresh has the potential to make a big difference.

I can't get my head around this, I thought there was a RWD already on the market but all the single motor ones are FWD?

I don't get the advantage of FWD in an EV, all the other brands seem to be going RWD for the even weight distribution

Damn, thought I'd just found a neat trick to get around some VRT

I doubt I'd be going with the AWD anyway unless I win the lottery or sell a kidney or something

You'd nearly expect a salesperson to say that. Think they mentioned about a 6mt lead time.

Refresh also adds a fair bit of range along with the bump in power as far as I know? If the cost difference isn't mental I'd definitely be waiting for that. I wouldn't touch a FWD EV, you'd chew through tyres and never be able to get the power down.