Reflection on the pandemic: questions about the authorities' response.

So do you speak for all Swedes now as well as the vast majority of people in this country ? I don't think so .

Why do you think Sweden had to change their response ? Public outcry .

Again, starting to be widely reported now. The source is Statistics Sweden, Eurostat etc.

Did you read the full article?

It states Sweden hasnt reported all its data for 2022 yet.

Plus the figures arent adjusted for demographic changes between the baseline and pandemic period.

Thanks for translating it for me .

I can clearly read it is an excerpt and not the full source ?

Also provides at the bottom about how the accuracy may not be all that ...

Not sure why I can't find this particular article ..Is it a preprint , or maybe something that has been posted out of context somewhere?

Where is it being " widely reported ?

Ahhh , Twitter , I see now , eh , really ? And Elon himself twisting about it .

You do know that Twitter is not a factual source of information ?

Sweden was not a good example from a financial perspective, in the EU, Ireland had the fastest growing economy during the pandemic years:

Coronavirus: Sweden GDP Falls 8.6% in Q2, More Than Nordic Neighbors (businessinsider.com)

Same question for you:

So when the final data is published by Eurostat will you admit you were wrong if Sweden still has the lowest excess mortality?

Mean excess mortality for Ireland for 33 months since and including April 2020 was 8%, in the same period of time for Sweden it was 4.7%.

As I said early on, it was always going to be a marathon, not a sprint.

Who did better in the covid olympics? Well, for me there is no debate.

The poster being replied to was espousing the monetary aspect, Sweden did worse here in most metrics compared to similar countries, significantly worse than Ireland.

If you want to put Sweden in a good light, you need to ignore 2020 and look at 2021 onwards when they had vaccines and lockdowns.

Denmark are, arguably, the model to follow for future pandemics. Denmark also used selective lockdowns (and a study revealed that high infection areas effectively went into lockdown before the Danish government put the mandate in place). Ireland howled when Kildare had a tighter lockdown than other areas, so not sure it would have worked here in practice.

It depends on how you define the "best".

If you are happy to let all the old people die in 2020, then you will have the best performance in excess deaths in 2021 and 2022, because there aren't enough old people left to die, then you are the best.

Let the most vulnerable die in 2020, impose lockdowns and curfews in 2021 so the hospitals can look after those who are left is a strategy that worked and it can be called the best. It is not one I like, though.

"As COVID-19 progressed so did the measures taken. On 10 January 2021 an Act was passed that provided the Government the right to place rules on curbing public and private gatherings, and limit international and domestic travel.[73][74][71] The law was a temporary pandemic law and allowed for Sweden to place time limits on when businesses can open and close.[74] On 30 June 2021 a travel ban was introduced on anyone from the United States or EEA.[71][75] Exceptions were on travellers from Denmark, Finland, Iceland and Norway.[75] The ban was set to be lifted on 31 October 2021.[76]

Regulations were then created to take place on 1 July 2021.[74] Numbers of people who could be in one place such as a restaurant, or store was limited, as well as social gatherings being limited to no more than 8 people.[74][77] Remote work was recommended if possible, and on 17 March[when?] school was made fully online.[71"

Sweden came late to the party.

According to a friend of mine from Stockholm the only action he was aware of was the government told the citizens to be mindful of their contacts as there was a bad virus going around.

He witnessed no lockdown, masks , curtailment of kid’s education, closure of gyms , bars / restaurants, parks etc and no hysterical brow beating by easily manipulated neighbours or co-workers.

The very opposite of what we (and other countries) endured when we were plunged into a half-life existence for close to 2 years.

As many of us said at the time , their strategy was the logical action. It’s no surprise that the pro lockdown contributors will now blur the reality lines and revise the not too distant past to support their position.

As the old adage says , it’s all coming out in the wash now. Rejoice

Well done for telling a funny story about one person you know who went around for the last few years with his eyes closed and ears shut and didn't read a newspaper !

Maybe he had no Swedish and preferred listening to something else ?

That's ok , but not very reliable to be telling people what he saw and heard then ...

What is coming out in the wash as I said a few pages ago is that somebody in Sweden has been trying to cover up their appalling and unethical decisions to abandon their elderly . That tweet being circulated by pro herd immunity publications is exactly that , a makey up figure by one statistician for a Swedish vested interest , ignoring the reasons for a reduction in excess deaths by that country from 2021 on .

Recording history is best left to others who don't make such a fvck up of their country's pandemic response that they manage to kill off a whole generation in one year .

Read what statistics actually show .. I don't think anybody would / should be rejoicing .🙄

Can you point out what's wrong with the Twitter analysis?

What has been presented so far is not the truth, they are facts cut in a particular way by a flawed statistical analysis, especially with regard to how 2020 have been included.

So what are the actual 'facts'?

Pay special attention to further analysis from this epidemiologist:

Tip for non-experts: if you see excess mortality metric that, by its own admission, is not adjusting based on age distribution or prior trend (if population was growing or declining), this metric is pure garbage.

https://twitter.com/galinash/status/1632014561250295808

These are ‘nil pointers’.

Tweeter is not a reputable source of information, even if it confirms your beliefs.

The tweet you posted is from a year ago.