Winter 21/22 Eviction Ban (was: And just like that, FFFG lose 298000 votes))

I can imagine timing is key. But quite a few people rent as they save up. And with so few houses on the market they have to wait around for a fair few months.

So you might get an alignment and the landlord comes along and says I'm selling up in 6 months at the same time they are looking to buy.

The question I guess will arise in how it is done. Can you still put it on the market and get into a bidding war that just drives the price up beyond what they can afford so they have to refuse it?

And also if you wanted to buy the house you would prob approach the landlord anyway.

Like everything this government does it will be implemented badly and cause more problems that it solves.

It would want to be a lot more than 14k tax free for me to get back into the water.

Besides they could make it €20k tomorrow and you wouldnt be able to trust them that they wont change it to zero next January.

Half the problem is that the goal posts are not just moving. They are miles away.

Thats what I did. Let me guess. The ultimate thread killer is posting. Threads here are much, much better with that person on ignore.

Do you have a job? (I mean as in not self-employed)

Is your contract term/open-ended/permanent?

You almost got the point.

The employer cannot say to the employee "yes I know we have a contract but I've decided to fire you because someone else will do your job for less".

However the employee can say "yes, I know we have a contract but I've decided to take a higher paying job with the fella down the road".

The above scenario is analagous to the asymmetry claimed between landlords and tenants vis-a-vis exiting the lease early.

No one ever agrees with you donald trump. Do you ever ask yourself why? Most of the rebuttals that other posters do is a complete waste of their time as you "some how" find a way to say to say that the stats, articles that they use are all wrong yet you back it up with absolutely nothing other that your opinion. You share anecdotal info or blatant generalisation with no info to backup your statements . I read over most comments in the accommodation forum but the minute i see your name, i dont bother as its all waffle.

I can't tell whether you are trolling or genuinely can't understand the point. Perhaps a bit of both?

Oh I do and I know where you’re going with this, I have an extraordinarily long notice period that I can’t breach without being sued I also have a non compete for 8 months which means I can’t work with a competitor, oh and other people I work with have breached these and been taken to court on it, makes it difficult to find a new job especially the notice period, but a contract is a contract, much as a lease is a lease.

Side note I’ve worked contract before in IT and signed up for a year, if I left before the contract was up I would be liable for the amounts that they’d agreed to pay me as a daily rate, money for time and vice Versa.

missed out on some fantastic opportunities but that’s the nature of a contract.

You see what you aren't understanding is that as a contractor, you are essentially operating as an independent business and then you have two businesses contracting. I am sure that you are aware that, for example, as a contractor you can contract out of statutory rights which would be afforded to regular employees? A regular employee cannot contract out of those rights in a personal capacity. You are not employed staff while you perform work for a company as a contractor!

If you are not an independent contractor and instead are employed by a contracting company, then your rights lay with them and not the company they send you out to. And the obligations of the contract lie with them and not you. They would still be obliged to provide the services to the other company, but you could still leave.

The correct analogy to your contractor scenario would be if you leased your house to a company for 10 years - e.g. Google - as they wanted to have it for 10 years to put their relocating staff up in. Or even the more common example of leasing it to the Council for 10 years. But that is not at all like the analogy I gave.

If you don't like it being pointed out that landlord/tenant "asymmetry" vis-a-vis ending the agreement early is analgous to that of an employee/employer, then that's fine. What you are doing though by going on about contractors is essentially a form of straw-manning and deflection.

Can you not understand that the existence of a notice period indicates that the employee is not forced to stay working for the entire duration of the contract?

Do you not understand that your own post even vindicates what I said?

Your son had a contract and is leaving it early. If he was a regular employee, passed his probation etc, then the employer could not just end his contract early to get someone cheaper to do his job.

Was listening to Uncle Joe yesterday as I drove from Dublin to kerry.

Had a woman crying that she would be homeless soon as her landlord was selling. She needed a house in the area as her son was in school and upset at the thought of leaving his friends.

In the next breath she says she may have to consider moving back to her home country if she couldn't find a house. 🤣

The contradiction seemed to pass Duffys senses.

In the general case of an employee of a company, there long enough etc, can the employer just randomly decide to fire you to replace you for no reason other than he can get someone to do your job for cheaper? Even if they give you notice. Yes or no?

In the general case of an employee of a company, there long enough etc, can the employee just randomly decide to leave for no reason other than he can get paid more somewhere else? When they give their notice. Yes or no?

You appear to be mixing up the fact that you have to give notice as some sort of proof that the contract is not ending early. Let's apply your logic back to a tenant scenario. The tenant has to give the landlord notice - does that mean they are not ending the lease early?

I'm very surprised that on a point about employee/employer contracts, you bring up contractors .Contractors are not relevant and refute nothing.

What is the contradiction?

If she said she might have to consider moving to Kerry then that wouldn't be a contradiction?