Newstalk Megathread Nov 2022

I'm far from a native gaeilgeoir but I do wonder how authentic an Irish phrase 'Tá tu suas chun Dáta' is.

Is it not ok for a language to evolve with new phrases even if the context or how the phrase was built was influenced from another language ?

And if enough people use it, it becomes the norm anyway.

Grating though it may sound initially to purists, surely it's a step forward to in some part?

I've yet to hear anyone come up with a different, or more authentic way of saying "you are up to date" in Irish.

If you don't know the correct phrase, how do you know that that one is wrong?

Well hello stranger!

I don't disagree with any of what you've posted at all!

I also adore "mo bhicicle", and all the localisms that abound in the different regions - I spent a week on a Gaeltacht course in N Donegal, and for someone who learned a mish-mash of Connaught/Munster Irish in school, it was like trying to learn Swahili! It was almost literally a different language (they had a completely different word for "cailín" - it's so long ago now that I've forgotten what it was - and their "conas a tá tú" was "guí Dé mar a tá tú" - with apologies if that's incorrectly spelt!) and everything was pronounced completely differently (as indeed it is in English!)

I will never be able to make peace with "tá tú suas chun dáta" - but like I say, when I went looking online there it was all over the place, being used as an everyday phrase, by native speakers in all sorts of contexts - so even if it's not technically or lyrically correct, it seems to have found its way into the language along with the "wycicle" and similar to "je vais au camping pour le weekend" in French.

Apologies.

I took you up wrong.

What's the Irish for "If Shane Coleman was a lollipop he'd lick himself"

In fairness, he has often acknowledged that his Irish is poor and he wishes it was better.

Up to date is an idiom specific to English. The three words used together convey the meaning but the same three words used together in Irish and probably other languages mean nothing.

Think of the phrase ‘up to ninety’ meaning worried etc. Surely people can see how meaningless ‘suas chun nocha’ would be in Irish. Instead you would find a different way of conveying the same meaning.

Really don’t mean to sound condescending or anything but this is really basic to me. Grade As were few and far between when I did my Leaving. I know the top grades are ten a penny these days. It does make me wonder.

I really don’t know how there isn’t one person in Newstalk who can do something about that ‘suas chun data’. It makes them sound so stupid.

In have noticed plenty of English phrases used in broadcasts other languages, German for instance. They simply use the English phrase untranslated as is.

There is something pathetic and backward about the need to translate every last phrase from English. It reminds me of the alleged expulsion from Gaeltacht schools of an unfortunate student who absent mindedly said "bless me" after sneezing.

Someone in Newstalk needs to put a gag on Ciara Kelly. With her fake outrage and bombastic bluster she's turning into a kind of George Hook with t1ts

Couldn't give less of a shiny sh1te whether buildings worldwide are lit up green or not on St Junket's Day, a controversy all in Ciara's little head.

She's an absolute dose, now in wacky relationship(s).

I missed the start of it, but it came across that she was a bit disappointed and bored now that a lesbian couple is considered normal. She wants to be on the edge, which is hard when everyone accepts your choices.