Dublin Airport New Runway/Infrastructure.

I'm in the Blackrock/Dun laoghaire area and once and a while I'd hear some planes flying over. It's very seldom that it happens though.

There’s a difference between something making noise, being noisy and being excessively noisy. Particularly at night when the back ground noise levels drop off significantly.

Just because you can hear something doesn’t mean it’s being “noisy”. I personally believe that some of the areas complaining of noise in relation to the new runway is an issue with this in particular. “I can hear an airplane” seems to equal these planes are very noisy and that therefore the airport is wrong. Especially if the background level of noise in the area is low.

Yeah I'm the same, I've no issue with it personally.

Yes but are they truly loud, as in you can’t have a conversation with the person sat beside you or is it simply that you can hear them.

I think in a lot of these cases people were used to hearing very little and are now irked because they can hear something. But that sound is not actually that loud or certainly not as loud and troublesome as they are actually making it out to be.

I have family that live in an area of Dublin that is the equivalent of Ballyboughal for height of passing departures. Having been in that house loads I can truly honestly say they aren’t loud or disturbing in the slightest. Even sat out in the back garden in the summer with a departure every 2 mins or so. The passing buses and loud exhausts are more bothersome or the neighbours dogs constantly barking.

Caller to Claire Byrne right now, sitting on a plane on the apron since 730 this morning. Says two out of the three de-icing systems are "broken".

Unfotunately, its entirely plausible that one of the handlers a: has that few rigs, and b: has that level of maintenance

MOL is on record saying he'd rather swallow the delays/chaos the couple of times a year he doesn't have enough rigs than pay to have enough of them sitting idle 360 days per year.

If they club together, who gets priority? You could say in order of reporting ready for push, but that’s not necessarily the overall most efficient method, as the rigs will waste a great deal of time criss crossing the apron between gates, piers and terminals, as the next aircraft in the queue may be in the other terminal etc.

This issue rests entirely within the airlines themselves. They are unwilling to pay to have sufficient rigs available either themselves or via third party contracts. The have made the calculation that doing so is more expensive than putting up with the consequences a handful of times each year. Whether this is an accurate calculation or not, I couldn’t possibly say, but there are reasons you can fly to London for €20 and this is one of them.

A dedicated de ice pad at each end of the new runway with enough space for say 3 narrow bodies.

Taxi out (frees up the gate) get de-iced, depart immediately

De-ice on gate is inefficient as the equipment has to move around between gates and you could time out before getting airborne causing more chaos

It would be CAR, soon to be the new IAA.

I never said CAR were likely to do it, there's no chance, but they are the only body with the legislative ability to do it. DAA can't because anything they charge the airlines for is adjudicated on by.....CAR. What is currently the IAA has no economic regulatory authority, only safety.

I was one of those caught in a 2 hour delay at Dublin airport today, and the gates at terminal one with all the backlogged passengers was worse than a cattle mart. Really disgraceful that a bit of forecasted snow can cause such havoc but it’s typically Irish isn’t it to not be able to cope with it?!

It's not no. It's typical corporations not investing in equipment that only need to be used 2 or 3 days a year. They'll take the hit instead.

There was also a French ATC strike yesterday which didn't help matters either.

I'm not mathematician but it doesn't look like anywhere close to the reported 200 people at that meeting.

I wonder if that was an A330 as well, which is the noisiest aircraft operating out of Dublin.

The SID change has made some significant difference in some places. Rolestown seems to be off the hook now, and the problem may be worse elsewhere, which reflects the location of that meeting.