Not trying to give them ideas here but if they were so worried about semi auto centrefire rifles, why are they only banning some of them and not banning them all, ie. pre 18th September 2015 safe......post 18th September 2015 unsafe. Absolute bollix. This is purely for optics. Won't stop a single 'Regency Hotel' style shooting.

The junior minister overseeing this is James Brown TD for Wexford isn't that correct?

Wexford in my opinion (being a Wexican) is one of the strongest shooting counties in the country with many game conservation clubs coming under primarily the NARGC banner. Offhand I can count at least 6 gun dealers whose livelihood depends solely on their businesses as well as a gunstock maker and I am sure other indirect dependents. There is an active clay pigeon shooting scene with a number of clubs active year round.

James Brown received just over 8000 first preference votes in the last general election. Surely this contains a fair number of people involved in the shooting industry in Wexford.

NARGC or the other organization's will have their membership figures for Wexford. James Brown should immediately be written to highlighting how many of his constituents are keeping a keen eye on this review and that he will be held to account at the polls should he be seen to unjustly attack our sport and livelihoods.

The book stops with him and we hold the lobby. We have the power to wipe him out should he oversee an unjust or unfair review.

As a member of Wexford gunclub I will write to the NARGC and ask them to issue such a letter. They can dress it up a bit but the message should be clear.

You might want to check again about speed limits on motorways. I can tell you, from experience, that speed limits on M1, M50 and M3 are NOT ALWAYS 120kmph. As an example of new laws or interpretations, if you exit the Port Tunnel, unless you are in the right hand lane, you are considered to be on the M50, and M50 local rules apply to you, i.e. on ramp/off ramp/airport access and 80kmph rule. Money maker for PTB

There's no doubt that the communication from the NARGC and all other relevant groups has been very poor - but there is enough of us here, to start making a racket across other social media, and to also give our club committees a bit of hassle, and then to encourage our friends and family to do the same, and then spread the word further, so actions are repeated by our fellow licence holders.

You can be sure as hell that everyone reading this, would pass it on to their friends and family, if it was a way to get a free pint, or a free fiver etc. :-(

I agree with Grizz, we should be tackling this now, not after the horse has bolted, and some nobody Jnr. Minister has just circulated a document around the Dail, about restricting laws in relation to firearms!

Perfect analogy of the current situation;

Government announce in 2015 that they intend to ban diesel cars.

Fast forward to 2023, government announce they are banning diesel cars and that they will not permit any diesel cars registered after 2015 to be taxed, thus rendering them illegal to use on the roads.

Same thing as is happening with the SA CF. It it happened with diesel cars, there would be absolute uproar.

Having read the minutes from the FEC meetings so far I have noted the DOJ and AGS have on several occasions brought in SME's from the Garda tech bureau and the NPWS. Why haven't the shooting org representative's brought in SME's to counter the states points?

Or have they something to gain .....

That'd never happen in Ireland 🤔

Thanks for info. Good to see NARGC getting 'stuck in' 😉.

Have emailed TD's in my area. Waiting on replies.

Thanks for sharing that.

To say that I'm absoutely livid, after reading it, is an understatement - we clearly have a little dictator on our hands, and he needs to be stopped, quickly.

I think everyone needs to be sending emails, making phonecalls, and paying visits, to their local FF politicans, and telling them in no uncertain terms, that we'll actively campaign against every FF candidate to ever stand in our constituencies, unless this little upstart is brought under control.

Same thing then for the FG politicans in our constituencies, given they have the actual Minister for Justice portfolio.

Need to give every one of the FF members hell, then quickly move on to the FG'ers...

It needs to be very clear to them, that James Brown will be responsible for them losing their jobs, at the next election, if they don't put a stop to him, now.

No more playing "Mr Nice Guy", as the more we do that, the more we get walked on...