Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

People really need to get out of this mindset, as it's the very mindset that the pro immigration people feed of too, but in the other direction. While the people milking the situation are likely laughing at us, the rest of Europe literally doesn't think of us. We're an insignificant little nation that doesn't even cross the thoughts of most Europeans, yet for some reason many think that we're important, but we really aren't. The perception of importance is why so many people want us to appear as great progressive nation, all in the hope of getting pats on the back from other EU countries. It's such a massive societal sacrifice for what we get in return.

France takes in hundreds of thousands of (non Ukrainian) refugees and asylum seekers every year - 20% of all asylum claims in the EU.

I asked you a simple question.

Instead of answering it you spoke about why you shouldn't have to.

Dodging the question.

I asked originally because you expressed disdain for the current government parties, as you have tended to lean left over the years I wanted your opinion of fellow leftie Gino Kenny's assertions about those parties.

Are you defending the government on the issue of immigration?

Being milked by people laughing at us an insignificant nothing. Is what you posted about. If that is how you feel and you are not angry I'm very confused.

So your not supporting the government on the immigration issue but you are taking issue with me not supporting them.

Right got it.

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I'm asking if you agree with Gino Kenny that the government parties are organising far right groups to protest against immigration that they are responsible for arranging.

Essentially, the narrative from Gino Kenny is that the government are both taking immigrants in to Ireland and also organising far right activists to protest against that.

Do you agree with Gino Kenny on this issue?

The reason being that whilst the current government are reprehensible some of the current opposition seem likely to be mentally unhinged.

Were a coalition involving Sinn Fein and People Before Profit amongst others to be our next government, we may well have someone who believes insane things like Gino Kenny responsible for a ministerial portfolio.

As bad as the current shower are do you believe having wack-a-doodle Gino Kenny responsible for a ministerial portfolio would be a positive thing for this country?

I never said any of that.

You should run for office yourself, you've got the ducking and diving down to a fine art.

Still no answer to the question notably.

I know the sentiment and the truth is all of Europe is changing beyond recognition. However if north inner city is already lost then people need to prioritise protecting other parts of the city.

Ireland is not quite Sweden yet although heading in this direction.

There are no classes of Citzenship in Ireland.

So would you mind explaining what exactly is a second class citizen to you?

I googled the woman who said that. She seems to come from a comfortable middle-class family in Nigeria, and her reasons for moving here in 2014 are suitably vague - marriage not working out, two kids, wanting "a better life". So obviously she travels 7,000 kilometres and lodges a claim for asylum in Ireland, sits it out, gets leave to remain. She doesn't say that explicitly but there's no way it was a skilled work visa as she refers to the Church helping her in the beginning when she wasn't working. She describes her employment status in 2021 as:

"I’ve been involved in some community development projects and would like to continue to facilitate workshops on adjusting to an all embracing diverse environment on acceptability and understanding of the uniqueness of other cultures and ethnicity."

So in other words, she's on the NGO/diversity gravy train. Seriously, I'm sure she's very nice, but just think of the huge amount she and her kids have cost the Irish taxpayer in welfare, healthcare, housing, legal fees, education, the nonsense made-up jobs (can't link to her LinkedIn here but her job history scanty to say the least and looks like a lot of volunteering and CE schemes).

There are tens of thousands like her, and the reason they're here is that our IPA system is not fit for purpose.

Yes, she arrived a full decade after the citizenship referendum was supposed to put an end to this nonsense. Three years after Pamela Izevbekhai was finally deported after costing the Irish taxpayer over a million euros in legal fees. She should have been kicked out immediately. The only conclusion is that there are Irish people making a lot of money out of this - the legal profession, the providers of accommodation, the ever-growing NGO monster - and the will to stop it was not there. And as the NGOs have taken control of the narrative in the media, there's very little dissent.

Who are you referring to when you use the Japanese word meaning foreigner?