Liverpool FC Team Talk, Gossip, Rumours 2024/25

The questions of intensity and motivation are all secondary for me, because what's really glaring is that there seems to be no tactical nuance in this team. We don't seem to run any plays in attack, it's just a bunch of lads out on the pitch passing it around and making it up as they go. I could probably count on one hand the amount of times this season we've actually created chances from good passing moves or clever runs to pull defenders away, our plan is just "try and get it to the forwards and hope they pull something off"

Luis D

6 games at 12:30 - 0 wins, 4 draws, 2 defeats. We've not scored in at least 4 of them.

Edit: might be only 5 games, not sure. The commentator mentioned Liverpool's bad 12:30 record during the game but I can't remember exactly.

This team is so infuriating. Massive dent to any top 4 hopes with the run of games we now have and with Newcastle and Brighton having multiple games in hand. Nothing positive about today piss poor all over the pitch. Let's just hope Leeds and Wolves do us favors

What's very annoying with that performance is that they could have been a goal or two up by the time it was 1-0.

The heads went then and didn't really recover.

Also the best possible opportunity to make it 1-1 with 20 mins to go.

This seemed to make them worse.

I flagged it beforehand, a big test to back up last week's result - another example of lads clapping themselves on the back all week after running up a big scoreline last week and taking the plaudits, and not willing to turn up this week and get the job done.

I've not been hard on this team all season, there are many reasons for the loss of form and inconsistency, but this one is another example of a group complacent and lacking in the attitude to compete as a group at the absolute highest level.

The attitude stank to high heaven today. We can talk about absences and fatigue, tactics and all sorts, but this group pound for pound are better than Bournemouth, and they were deservedly beaten.

By no means a big shock though, we've do e this all season. How many points have we dropped to teams in the bottom 3 when we played them? Wolves, Bournemouth and Forest are 3, there are more in sure.

Shaq

Nunez is good enough

He'll be the main man for sure next season.

Sounds like i missed a bad game

Liverpool wanted it a bit less, lost the 50/50s on many of occasions, but still could have won it. I don't think its like the previous dour defeats Liverpool had in the league.

Yes we have the same 433 set us but there was more to us that just the formation. one example been, when we had the ball Bobby used to drop deep to try drag out a centre half or occupy their holding midfielder. If that wasn't working you would see us fire a few quick passes into Bobby's feet to get him into the game and force one of their players to react. This used to give us loads of options, you would often see one of our midfields overlap into the space. Or if the center half was dragged out the ball would be put diagonally wide into the feet of Salah or Mane who would be moving at pace into the space. We also used to situations set up where the likes of Hendo, Trent and Salah would link for a series of quick short passes to try get Salah in behind.

We never play anything at pace into the feet of the forwards anymore in a central position to try and get the opposition deep lying midfielders or centre halves moving. Anything to feet now is to Salah or Nunez and they're usually almost hugging the touch line with no overlap options to try a create some space. They then inturn try to improvise which inevitably it doesn't work and we give away the ball. Our other main option these days is these floated crossfield balls that would may win 1 in 5. Likes it's not unusual now to see us going 15/20 minutes in any game and none of our front three will have had the ball at their feet in the final 3rd even once, it's mad looking at it. Everything is just labourered and uninspiring and the players almost looked fed up of what's been asked of them half the time!

Pretty crazy that we don't play another league game until next month, while others will be playing multiple league games, we're going to drop fast, and need to go again with games in hand. We have 3 weeks off to get Diaz back, and others up to speed.

Maybe a Klopp Vacation is needed. Lets go to Spain on Wednesday and not some back for 3 weeks.

This is the games before Liverpool play again just a normal week fixture along with others getting their games in hand played

SUNDAY 12TH MARCH

Fulham V Arsenal

Manchester United V Southampton

West Ham United V Aston Villa

Newcastle United V Wolverhampton Wanderers

WEDNESDAY 15TH MARCH

Brighton & Hove Albion V Crystal Palace

Southampton V Brentford

FRIDAY 17TH MARCH

Nottingham Forest V Newcastle United

SATURDAY 18TH MARCH

Aston Villa V AFC Bournemouth

Brentford V Leicester City

Southampton V Tottenham Hotspur

Wolverhampton Wanderers V Leeds United

Chelsea V Everton

SUNDAY 19TH MARCH

Arsenal V Crystal Palace

Leicester created 2.35 xg against Chelsea today. 7 shots on target. In general, Chelsea are not scoring.

If that game wasn't away, I'd be confident of beating Chelsea. It might be the one to target a win in out of the run of 3 tough games though.

Going to be lots of twists and turns for top 4

Nah, football fans and media in general seems to forget that the race for 4th is an awful sh1tsh0w most years. It often looks like a place no one wants. Any year we've scraped it we've either limped along or we've broken almost all of our worst ever records.

I'm still optimistic if the main group stays fit even if today was terrible.

6 points behind top 4 with a game in hand.

Essentially the same position as last weekend before the games were played.

Ah lads nunez is ok but let's get realistic his passing and control is poor and lots of moves break down due to him, get realistic he will score goals but certainly he is unfortunately worse than I hoped, he has no guile like suarez had for instance

My memory is shot to pieces so I had to look

Suarez - 4 goals in 13 in his first (half) season

Darwin - 8 in 20

That's actually mad.

Not that I think he'll reach that level (that's an insane level) but it does show that some players need settling time

Darwin's a year younger in his development too. Suarez joined just after he turned 24, Nunez joined just after turning 23.

He's a little bit off his usual pace since his recent shoulder injury, but ultimately he's definitely one of the season's bright sparks for me anyway.

Yeah, he challenges first, then slips a little, and then allows Robbo to take over - but then he just does nothing. At all. Like, all he had to do was just stay jogging goal side of the player to make the cross more difficult (which would've likely stopped the goal). And instead he just disengaged from the situation entirely and stopped trying to defend in any capacity. Nuts. I've never really seen anything like that before to be honest. It was such a disengagement that first I thought he had pulled something and gotten injured, which was why he slowed and stopped, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

(Elliott was also really poor for it - Billings runs past him, and Elliott doesn't track, leaving Trent with 2 players to try to watch, so he gets stuck between them)

Shaq and Diaz is not the answer.