Audi e-tron

Dublin to cashel is only 170km or so. The Q4 etron 50 would do much more than that.

The 40 minutes to charge is too much I agree.

The 125 probably hit the efficiency more than anything, but that being said, I've done dublin to cashel in an Ioniq28 a lot, it's 170km and not an issue at 120. (See the IEVOA 500km rally a few years ago that I won!).

Not doubting you for a second btw, @Larbre34 , merely trying to understand the why, because as others have mentioned, Dublin to Cashel is quite a short stint for that car and it should be capable of making cork. I understand now!

I drive limerick to Leopardstown Dublin in my Q4, 210 km journey, even driving around 130km/hr (destination charger in place so don’t need to save watts), consumption is (in worst weather, cold, wind, rain) 29kw/100km , which gives effective range of 260km from 100% to 0% battery,

so after your 170km journey +50km left = 230km range starting out.

80% of 260km = 208km range which was your actual range when leaving Dublin (if your car knew your speed,weather etc)

so all adds up.

If 260km is the range of the Q4 etron 50, does anyone know what is the effective range of the smaller Q4 35? It's a nice looking car but for the price the range must be fairly limited

hi all, do you have any idea why there are lots of used etrons on sale now? yes, the returning lease cars might be a reason but there is no other EV make / model being on sale this many, is it sth normal? I see the range and problems with the electrical systems and MMI are the main reasons of complaint but apart from that do you think those 2020 and 2021 model etrons will be outdated and lose their value as fast as it's happening now or are they an opportunity to have a premium EV and drive for long?

Thanks a lot, makes great sense. I totally agree an Audi approved one would be the best option. I am in between going forward with a brand new Tesla Model Y spending around 50K€ or paying between 50-55K€ for a 2021 used etron. Built quality and comfort of Tesla worries me but I am not sure if the electrical problems and MMI problems with etrons are still there.

Thanks so much and yes, that range issue looks like the biggest risk as the range will decrease eventually with usage. Technically, my daily mileage is about 30-50kms so the range will not be a big problem, but in the future, this might affect the resale value considering advancing of the battery technology.

Yes, you're totally right, there's around a %10 extra premium for the cars from main dealers. Not paying that €5k might be an intelligent risk to take for an extra year of warranty. Really appreciated your comments, thanks a lot.

Would you consider a high spec version of an Enyaq ? Interior is very comparable to the Audi and will have better efficiency, range and possibly warranty. Obviously it doesn’t have the premium badge but neither does a Tesla.

yes actually I am checking them as well, but when I put Enyaq in the shortlist there comes the ID.4 and the decision gets more and more complex :)

I had a 2021 Q4 etron upto two weeks ago. I looked at the fat etron back in 2021. Got to drive a 55 for a 3 day weekend before i went for the Q4.

The fat etron efficiency is awful in real time. They’re a very heavy car and built like a brick (with similar aerodynamics )

I reckon my Q4 battery degraded by at least 15% over the 2 years of ownership, even though 90% of my charging was done at home.

Very heavy on the juice at motorway speeds in the winter

The Audi tech is just plain awful, with no updates or support. Getting the app to work to do the basics is problematic and patchy . Nav is unusable (thank god for CarPlay even you had to reconnect each tie you started the car).

Comfortable car though especially on long motorway journeys, but glad to get rid of it in the end.

I’m hoping that the tesla wont be as bad to be honest.

dont by the smaller battery ones as they will barely do 200km.

If the battery continued to degrade at that rate, you’re looking at a warranty claim if you had kept the Q4.