Waterford GAA Thread - Mod note post #1

Liam Cahill definitely targeted Stephen Bennett tonight for special treatment at every opportunity to rattle him and it worked.

Jason Forde caused wreck when he came on. But the space had opened up for him in fairness when the spare man.

The speed and intensity was up a few notches tonight and we are getting ever closer to the pitch of championship which isn’t so far away at all.

The Kilkenny match will be tasty enough too I’d imagine.

Based on tonight a 10 pt plus mauling is on the cards for next weekend v Kk in KK……did A Gleeson go off injured, where was C Gleeson, who is Conor Ryan…?

waterford done a lot of good things tonight when 15v15 , especially run down the through the tipp backs , one flaw is the man on the line ,he had ye over the top tonight in the physical stakes and it worked against ye , when he got the yellow card you could see him tell james owens james you owe us two frees , things like that turn a ref against your team

i hate it personally and did at the time when he was doing the same for us especially 2016

Just back and a very strange game.

We started well and took an early lead. Could have built a cushion but We then made three mistakes and Tipp had 1-2 on the board. From then on we couldn't win a Puck out and struggled until a brief surge before half time.

One major tactical change after half time was playing Tadhg as a sweeper and even though he wasn't great the system brought us ahead and at that stage it was anyone's game. Tipp then get a goal, Stakelum goads Barron, Barron shoves him, Stakelum strikes him, Barron strikes him back and Stakelum goes down. As others have said Tipp were ready with the dark arts tonight, a number of times they took the Waterford players hurley and flung it away, Austin and Bennett got a lot of verbals and physical attention amongst other issues. We seemed too timid, the only player we have that seems to be able to do likewise wasn't involved tonight.

A couple of sources have said Austin was injured, he did go down after about 5 mins or so but I never saw him leave the field as we were all on the opposite side.

On the day Tipp deservedly won but we missed a lot of chances, 13 wides and at least 3 goal chances lots by a poor pass or a poor touch in front of goal. If this was a championship performance I'd be annoyed but it's still league. Though Tipp showed they're capable of getting out of Munster and more.

Haha, well that anyway. But they have some good players and they look they'll be hard to beat. I think they will be in the three qualifying from Munster.

So much nonsense in this post I don’t know where to start. Aussie went off with an injury after 20 mins so don’t know how you can say he was bullied ‘all night’. Also it’s well known that Cahill was tapped up by Tipp long before they publicly sacked Bonner so don’t know where Waterford ‘got rid of him’ is about

Surprising to see Tipp show their hand with this dark arts stuff so early in the year it almost felt personal from Cahill after how he finished with Waterford last year . Interesting moment in interview afterwards on TG4 Odomhnaill asked them if they are in danger of peaking too early this year like he did last with Waterford. Cahill smiled (which is rare) and said ‘let’s see how this group of players can handle it in championship’ alluding to the fact it was the players failed and him not other way around

the championship encounter will be Spicey

plant him?

You’re nitpicking for answers there. I should have said “bullied him till he went off” or specified I didn’t mean up to 11 last night? Re Cahill Tipp had been approached in the years before the move but he wouldn’t have moved last year if he had the players support. He didn’t.

I have no skin in this game, I found it an enjoyable match & talk of dark arts is nonsense. It’s time to put the big boy pants on. Which of the 2 teams last night has had a man sent off in every League game? Any mistakes Cahill made last year he’ll learn from, he hasn’t won 3 AIs by being a fool. Interpreting comments & suggesting it was almost personal is a bit one-eyed, no? He praised the Waterford players & he wasn’t the one who was booked after all.

Ah here, it is common knowledge that Cahill was never going to refuse the job a second time around.

Waterford could have offered him the sun moon and starts and it would not have mattered.

Cahill is a Tipp man, he is quoted saying how he wanted to be manager of Tipp, how hard it was to manage a team against Tipp.

Refusing the Tipp job a second time around would have ensured he would never be offered it again.

We also aren't good at keeping things in house in Waterford and very little came out of last year's saga other than the feeling of been over trained.

as a Tipp man I thought there were two periods in the game that were significant. For much of the first half Tipp pushed right up on Waterford puckouts and when they went long Waterford couldn't win their own puckout. While this was happening Tipp totally dominated.

When De Burca was sweeping in the second half until the red card, Tipp had no answer to him, Tipp were left with Breen in front of goal, completely idle. The big thing was in this period Waterford created two or three goal chances and several point chances. Tipp couldn't handle Waterfords pace when they were playing through the lines. The red card meant Tipp could push up on De Burca and Waterford couldn't build from the back.

How will Desssie Hutchinson fare under Davy? Hutchinson's game has been early low ball in front of him, turn his man and score. Waterford weren't playing that kind of a game last night.

Really? There was no story behind players being dropped for the last match? I’m afraid that wasn’t kept in house & as they say no matter how thin the pancake there are 2 sides. If they had worked through all that they’d be stronger for it

I take your point re Cahill wanting to return but Waterford should have put in a big effort to keep him & they didn’t. Taking back Fitzgerald is nuts. Cork appointed Pat Ryan who is no big name…they’d never go near Davy. Surely has to be some decent up & coming manager material in Waterford?

I wouldn't be a Davy fan but still think he was a good appointment for Waterford. I wouldn't be panicking yet after last night but for me the big issue as I've stated here before is your full back line, I know there were new players played last night which is good as ye need to try something different if they prove they're up to it I see no reason why ye can't be one of the 3. ye have a few rolls Royce hurlers that if on form can win matches on their own. ye know who I'm talking about

Which of the two teams has had a man sent off in every game? I've a feeling I can sense some backtracking coming.

I also have no idea what you're on about saying that "talk of dark arts is nonsense". Are you suggesting it didn't happen or that they don't exist? Either view is rubbish.

The majority on here (including you actually) have acknowledged that Tipp were way more up for a fight and they manhandled, dunted, goaded and pulled hurleys and threw them away. Has anyone criticised them for it because if they have I missed it. The only actions I had an issue with were those of Stakelum who started the incident with Barron and went down easier than he should have, Barron stayed up after Stakelum struck him. I didn't see the Breen incident as it was on the far side but anything else I saw was Tipp getting to a level that we didn't but shouldn't lack motivation for come championship.

Looks like Kilkenny are well on the way to beating Dublin. That means Waterford will qualify for League semi final if they beat Kilkenny next Sunday but that's a big IF. Might be better off not being involved.