Gary Lineker, BBC and Freedom of Speech - **Read OP**

Officially sanctioned refugees tend to arrive direct from their country of origin to UK Airports. These people's asylum is guaranteed through various programmes created to deal with crises in various parts of the world.

Remembering the Holocaust is not 'trampling on their memory'

Linekar was repeating the claim made by a Holocaust surviver about Braverman's rhetoric only a few weeks ago.

To not heed the warnings from history, is to trample on their memories.

You're asking questions that it's not reasonable to expect me to answer.

Refugees entering neighbouring countries can typically cross borders freely. Getting to a place like the UK with numerous safe countries between you and that destination isn't as straight forward. Some will be flown directly from their home country , others will cross borders on foot and be flown to the UK from a neighbouring country.

Like I said, it's a ban on people entering the UK illegally.

There was nothing about his comparison that was valid or justified. It was crass and lazy.

If he wanted people to be more careful about what they say, he should probably try doing it himself first. You know, lead by example. But instead he only really helped to further divide people with his terminology. Tweets like his only deepen the tribalism within society.

But using more moderate and considered language in his tweets, wouldn't get him as much attention or cheap twitter likes... so that wouldn't work for him.

I never said that.

This is from the UN Refugee agency;

"Albania was the top nationality claiming asylum in the UK in the year ending September 2022 (13,650 applications).

In the year ending September 2021, EU+ (EU, EEA and Switzerland) countries have seen a 4% fall in asylum applications, receiving 418,495 first time asylum applications from non-EU citizens. The top nationalities of people applying for asylum were Syrian (75,615), Afghan (49,905), Venezuelan (19,235), Colombian (18,160), Pakistani (17,960), Iraqi (16,420), and Turkish (13,845)."

That's not an exact reflection of what you're claiming.

Again, Albanians accounting for the most applications last year, odd as its a peaceful could try and Co sidered prosperous by the UN.

It's a crap situation, but they're dealing with an problem that's difficult to solve using existing law.

Albanian lads popping over to the UK to make a tidy pile of money and then vanishing like a fart in the wind accounts for the majority of applications now, something has to change there would you not agree?

Article 31 of the UN Refugee Convention states that refugees cannot be penalised for entering the country illegally to claim asylum if they are “coming directly from a territory where their life or freedom was threatened” provided they “present themselves without delay to the authorities and show good cause for their illegal entry or presence”. Further, in a court case in the UK in 1999 it was held that refugees did not have to claim asylum in countries through which they pass to reach safety in order to be protected by Article 31. Some element of choice is open to refugees as to where they may properly claim asylum. Any merely short term stopover en route to another country should not forfeit the individual’s right to claim refugee status elsewhere.

I certainly could have been clearer in how I worded things. I'm getting quoted repeatedly and it's a bit difficult to remain as coherent as I might like when I'm being compelled to provide sources and links for everything.

I've been quoted 53 times on this thread since midday today so it's been tough replying to everyone and being as cohesive as I'd like.

Gary Lineker has been citing refugees needing compassion etc, which is true but this bill isn't doing anything to change the arrangements for those people anyway.

Thanks for that.

The problem there for your argument is the wording "if they come directly from a territory where their life or freedom was threatened".

To get to the UK those persons would need to pass through several "safe" countries and then take a boat to cross the English Channel illegally.

'It’s been a turbulent weekend for BBC presenters – Fiona Bruce has just announced she will step back from her role as an ambassador for the domestic abuse charity Refuge following claims she had trivialised domestic violence during a discussion about Boris Johnson’s father, Stanley Johnson, on last Thursday’s BBC Question Time'.

Correctly done.

Yes, and you are ignoring the rest of the post citing R v Uxbridge Magistrates Court [1999] where Lord Justice Simon Brown held that refugees did not have to claim asylum in countries through which they pass to reach safety in order to be protected by Article 31,