Harry and Meghan - OP updated with Threadbanned Users 4/5/21

When Harry (allegedly) got dog bowled by his (definitely) psychopathic brother he rang his therapist straight after. During that same time, when his wife (allegedly) told him she didn't want to be alive anymore he didn't know what to do because he was being "institutional Harry". I don't know whose mental gymnastics are more impressive - the Sussexes or people zealously defending them.

C'omon. Look at Harry in that footage, when she is saying it. He is clearly embarrassed with her lying. But you won't see it, I am afraid...

Maybe he's unconsciously biased? 🤔

Against his own wife? Perhaps..🤨😀

Perhaps there is something more sinister at play for people's hatred.

And still went out that night to a royal function. So considerate..

Has to be, her alleged "crimes" are hilariously weak to garner so much prolific malevolence.

Honestly I have no idea, I wouldn't be that knowledgeable about it, like I already stated.

This lady seems to know what she is talking about though.

Id imagine that article was aimed more at the Jeremy Clarkson level of critique to be honest

Not at all, she speaks more about the covert insidiousness and how is just as damaging as the overt incel type ranting that Clarkson indulged in.

But you are very close to crossing a line now I think. You are strongly implying that I'm a sexist and/or racist for disliking Markle. That is not cool

I'm implying no such thing.

You asked me a question, in fact goaded me for a response, I said I wasn't qualified to answer and I linked to an opinion from an expert that I had read the other day.

IMO which I am fully entitled to have, the malevolence towards that lady is unwarranted and the excuses for it are weak.

And for the record, I am not the only one who thinks in general there is more at play here.

That is bullsh1t plain and simple. I put forth the reasons I don't like Markle. You said you don't believe me and then went on to say in the same post that isnt it interesting that it's usually women accused of narcissism.

I then pointed out that even if you were correct that wouldn't invalidate my points and then you hit back with an article stating that any criticism of Markle is covertly sexist and/or racist.

And you aren't implying anything? FFS

If you are just going to dismiss every opinion that opposes yours as "a joke" or "bullshít", there is much point in debating with you is there?

You ignored almost everything I said in my comment. Conveniently. You are the one dismissing opinions that don't agree with you. You are impossible to deal with and it's crystal clear now you have no interest in debating this at all.

Anyone that is genuinely open to discussion on the other side of the fence I'll happily talk to. But I'm done with the wind up merchants now.

You've taken it too far and made it personal.

Agreed. There is/was no quarter given for people commenting negatively on their looks and fashion. In addition there is a brilliant lack of discussion about actual conspiracy theories surrounding them which are out there and discussed as if they were true (e.g. moon bumps, paid for bot farms, yacht girl, beating up sex workers etc.). These things are the domain of actual hatred i.e. latching onto such things as it is selective bias and disregarding an actual lack of evidence for such toxic BS. Some of that crap is QAnon level crazy.

I think what actually prolongs this to the point where a thread here can exceed 15k posts is that there is a lack of counter points, clapbacks and the other side response from the Royal family. Nature abhors a vacuum and thus it leads to inference and speculation to try and fill in the gaps so to speak as to what the feelings, logical thinking and counter points might be. I know I certainly do that.

The news of Meghan marrying into the family couldn't be escaped and I thought at the time that it was a positive. A professional actress of mixed race marrying a troubled Prince who was clearly smitten. You couldn't help but be supportive of that. With my wifes family we watched the wedding and thereafter I thought no more about it all. For me the side eye cropped up during the Bradby ITV interview in South Africa but even then the benefit of the doubt was there. The tabloids at the time were doing what the tabloids do to any high profile people in sniffing out whatever stories they could. It certainly isn't easy to live through that media glare. Even with Megxit I was on their side for that. They were not happy and wanted out. Fair play to them, go live life on your own terms. They left and the world pre-occupied itself with dealing with a pandemic. Then, in the middle of that, the incessant victim playing kicked in starting with Oprah, hasn't ceased and I obviously haven't been siding with them since.

Interestingly, in the article in The Independent you posted about, Dr Shola Mos-Shogbamimu warned about people who request “examples”, adding “they expect you to do the work for them to unpick”

Who implied that?