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Polestar 2

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 780 ✭✭✭F00t13f4n


    Definitely sounds like Sales speak. They told me there won't be any in Ireland until Q1 2024, so that must be the 6 month lead time?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,221 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    That's good to know, thanks for that

    I wonder if getting the extra 70hp is advisable with the stock brakes 😅

    Tbh, 400+hp from the dual motor is probably enough for me, at least for now 😁

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 943 ✭✭✭n.d.os


    I have an ID4 and I've just purchased a Polestar 2 Standard range as our second car. I think the Id4 is nicer to drive but maybe that's just me. I think it's a cracking car that gets too much stick online. The Polestar is designed more to be driven with one pedal driving. I'm looking forward to having two very different EVs on the driveway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 943 ✭✭✭n.d.os


    Great APR rate of just 3.9% at the moment. Much better than VAG. I found the whole process with Polestar really refreshing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 943 ✭✭✭n.d.os


    Great. Shouldn't be too long then. I went for a bog standard magnesium car.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,186 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Are people driving EVs with two feet..... sounds like sure fire way to end up into a wall in your driveway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,221 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    No I'm pretty sure the whole left foot braking thing doesn't work in an EV 😉

    One pedal as in the car will brake to a stop when you lift off the accelerator

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 943 ✭✭✭n.d.os


    Sorry, I was a little unclear. The Polestar is more geared regenerative one pedal driving than the ID4.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 395 ✭✭Mythago


    I got the standard in Snow. Couldn't justify going for the plus but, very happy with choice. I tried Ioniq 5, ev6, id4 and a bunch of PHEVs. Almost ordered an Ioniq 5 but, impatience and P2 availability won out.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,340 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    Which is surprising considering coasting is apparently more efficient, I'm not hearing manufacturers using something like the smart regen that VW use based on GPS location and traffic.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,221 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Coasting is more efficient on motorways, regen is generally better in traffic since it saves your brake pads

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users Posts: 449 ✭✭eastie17


    Ordered one from stock during the week but am now having second thoughts, a lot of people mentioning the drivers seat being kind of claustrophobic, I’m 6 ft, but mainly it’s because of the whole idea of the extra work of planning recharging all the time. I live in rural cork, will have a home charger but if I want to head off to Dublin now and back in a day seems a hassle to be thinking about the charging network.

    had a 30 min test drive before Christmas, liked it but you never really know a car until ur living with it.coming out of an s90 r design

    went for a long range dual motor in thunder with pilot lite and the plus pack.

    what’s the likely scenarios with resale and trades in 3 to 4 years time has anyone speculated? Realise it’s an emerging market so hard to say I suppose.

    considering a very well spec 420d m sport instead, all sounds a bit mad I know. I still have the option to cancel the polestar and get my 1k back.

    sorry this post is a bit of a ramble, thoughts appreciated



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 943 ✭✭✭n.d.os


    Yeah, I'm still not entirely sure about the interior and I'm a small guy. For me it was more the quality of the plastics coming out of an Audi. The demo car was dirty though. I loved the look of the car and the delivery time so I decided to go for it.

    The only downside to buying a Polestar is Spirit Motors won't necessarily offer you a trade in price on your BMW. They will just buy the car off you at wholesale like any 3rd party dealership. Going down the more traditional dealer route and buying a "normal car" from say a BMW dealer, you'll get more for your existing car. On the plus side, Spirit will stand behind the Polestar, you'll get a better APR rate than BMW and free three year servicing.

    Come sale time you will have a standard GTV if you go down the PCP route but you might get a low trade-in offer on your car going back to Polestar as Spirit may not want the used cars in a similar way Tesla don't want used Teslas. It's a bit of a mystery at the moment but I did see used cars in the yard.

    The car won't tank. It all comes down to how you sell it in the future. It might not be as straight forward as bringing a BMW back to BMW but you'll hang onto your deposit for your next car if you hang onto it for 3 years.

    I'd be more reluctant to buy a new Tesla as I don't think they have any link to a traditional dealership in the same way Polestar to to Spirit Motors and Volvo.

    Post edited by n.d.os on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 943 ✭✭✭n.d.os


    ID4 is just a nicer car to drive. I hate all that regen driving though. It feels like you're driving with the handbrake on. If you like it then the Polestar is the better drivers car. When I turned off the regen on the Polestar it still feels a big slugish and heavy on the accelerator pedal. Maybe it just takes time to get used to as I found the ID4 brakes a bit spongy at first but now they're fine.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,221 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    I think going from Cork to Dublin is one of the better served routes, you've got decent quality hubs in Cashel, Mayfield and Kill. I've had an ID.4 for two years and I honestly feel I can go anywhere in Ireland without much difficulty, except possibly Donegal or rural Kerry, and even then I'd just need to charge up a bit extra on the way down

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 395 ✭✭Mythago


    If I were you I would book another test drive and sit in the interior with those thoughts in mind. Playaround with seating positions etc. In my opinion: in comparison to a Tesla M3, ioniq 5 or an ID4 the cabin feels less open but, in comparison to my old V60 it's not much different. I've had mine 10 days and don't feel cramped in the drivers seat (5'9).

    For a Cork-Dub trip you have discounted Ionity charging at Cashel and Kill so, time a pee break around them😂.

    Resale value is a big one, currently 3-4 year old EVs look to making good money but, who knows what another 3-4 years will bring.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 943 ✭✭✭n.d.os


    My Polestar has arrived. Ordered from available cars 11 days ago. Impressive.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,564 ✭✭✭eagerv


    Surely when using blended brakes like on VW you only use brake pads when you brake heavily. Whether you use D or B it is basically the same on brakes. But freewheeling will always be the most efficient unless you have to stop. The smart regen is one feature I really miss on my ID, made for very relaxed driving. Tesla don't use blended brakes, but you get a fairly strong regen as standard (Unable to alter on my RWD). Have eventually got used to this, feathering your foot so regen is at a minimum.

    Was behind an ID.3 recently who obviously was driving in B mode, brake lights were flashing like a Christmas tree every time he let off the accelerator on bends. I wouldn't say his efficiency was great..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 943 ✭✭✭n.d.os


    I just can't drive the ID4 on B. For around town it's fine but it just doesn't feel right. On the Polestar it feels more natural driving with regen on but I still think when I pick up my car I'll be turning it all off.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,221 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    I literally drive the ID.4 on B everywhere, I'm mostly driving around town and I generally forget when I'm on the motorway

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 943 ✭✭✭n.d.os


    Tell me have there been any app updates recently? I haven't looked into it as my wife drives the car most days? Can you time charges or aircon through the app yet or is it still done manually? I have a bog standard Elli charger so I can't set timers on it. I'm waiting on an app update to time charges there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,995 ✭✭✭Soarer


    So jealous.

    That spec comes in over the grant limit yeah?

    I love that cocooned feeling, the way you're enveloped as the driver (currently driving a V60 PHEV). Not a big fan on the SUVs and the high driving position and the feeling you're sitting on the vehicle as opposed to in it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,186 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Why oh why won't anyone come out with a decent estate. Sick of cross overs suvs and hatches.

    Only one on horizon possibly is A6 avant . No I don't count the MG as remotely sexy



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,221 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Yeah they've updated the app with v3.0 on the car. So you can set departure times for air conditioning, and you can setup charging as well but I think you need to save the location on the infotainment first

    They've also enabled locating the car from the app, and you can plot a route to the last parking location as well

    The software is improving but it really could be going a bit quicker. And they really need to work on the UI, right back at 2012 levels

    That's one of the reasons I was considering a Polestar, using Android was a great idea since it's gotten a competent software company to do all the hard work already

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 943 ✭✭✭n.d.os


    Im sure VW will offer an estate with the new id7.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 943 ✭✭✭n.d.os


    I will have to update the app and take a proper look. Timed charging would be great. My wife has to set an alarm on her phone every night to turn it on once we are out of peak.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,186 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Doubt it frankly I see that being a stand alone hatchback tbh. They won't make a wagon out of it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 943 ✭✭✭n.d.os




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,575 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,186 ✭✭✭✭listermint




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,575 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    The photos are of the saloon. There's no actual images of the shooting brake yet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,221 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    So how does the Polestar app compare to the ID one? Does it have most of the same features?

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 943 ✭✭✭n.d.os


    I'll tell you later in the week after I pick up my car. So far the Polestar experience is very good. The app provided accurate information on my order and updated it immediately once a pickup date was organized for the car. I don't see anything yet about charging on there. I think when I pick up the car the app updates itself to include charging.

    I was on WeConnect last night and noticed some of the changes. I'm interested to see if it improves my experience with the standard Elli charger with no app connect. Now that we have two EVs I sort of wish I bought the Elli Charger Pro so I could time charges but perhaps with these new app updates, I might be able to time charges through the app. I does mention something about location settings in the car so I will look at that next time I'm in it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 395 ✭✭Mythago


    Polestar app is quite limited:

    Battery %, car location. Lock/unlock door. Climate on/off & set timers.

    Also, allows the phone to be used as a key. Hopefully more functionality is added in the future.



  • Registered Users Posts: 449 ✭✭eastie17




  • Registered Users Posts: 449 ✭✭eastie17


    Thanks for the responses and advice to my rant.

    drove polestar today at the test drive location in Sandyford. It didn’t blow me away, thought the driving was a little dull, yes you get the mad acceleration if you put the foot down but it was a bit meh besides compared to the 190 horses in the Volvo. Hard to explain given that the polestar has over twice the hp. The test drive models are older, last years I believe and the one I was in said it needed a software upgrade but dunno how much difference that will make.

    didn’t feel claustrophobic as I had heard it might, but I can see how some might feel it would with the big centre console and the very narrow view at the back. The test drive model had the glass roof as the one I ordered has, think it probably would feel claustrophobic without that.

    room in the back isn’t fantastic, does feel tight but fine for kids,can really only take 2 I think. Heated rear seats and usb connections which are handy.

    the google system looks good, I only used the sat nav, very clear and just the right amount of guidance in the speedo area. Really like its detail around ur remaining capacity and where to top up on long journeys. It shows types of chargers, how many are currently being used, ur charging time to get to 80. % and what you will have remaining at destination if u charge. Sales guy said if u pick ur charging spot when departing, the car will automatically heat up the battery in advance before arriving at charge spot to speed up charging.

    spirit gave me a reasonable price on my own car at the test drive so think I will follow through with it, still have a slight concern with the arse falling out of the market with the newest model coming in October and the likelihood that prices may drop over the next couple of years a la Tesla so am going pcp to get that gfmv as some sort of hedge, APR is only 3.9 so as pretty good compared to most car loans. They are offering 6.9 on HP which is very competitive I think.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,186 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    So did you go for the 24 model or previous. The 24 appears pretty compelling near 50km extra range. 50kw faster charging 60 more hp and rear wheel drive.

    Prefer the current grille myself though. But the US are getting all driver aids standard. Prob won't get that here though as usual.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,906 ✭✭✭creedp


    Jaysus that's a real pita for what is a modern EV. My 2016 Leaf can be programmed to charge for any length of time desired using the in car screen. If I want to fully charge it, I set it to charge between 3 and 7 each night, whereas if I just want to top it up I'll set it to charge between 5 and 7. It's a bit cumbersome but takes only a minute to adjust before switching off car.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 943 ✭✭✭n.d.os


    I could be wrong but I still don't think you can program charges from the car itself (ID4). The app was updated recently and I believe now there is a workaround but I haven't looked into it yet. I picked up my Polestar today. Fab car. Great experience. The ID4 beats it on size and practicality for a family car but both are great cars geared at different customers. Happy we now have an ID4 and Polestar on the driveway. Two very different cars both great in their own right.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 943 ✭✭✭n.d.os


    I literally didn't tick a single extra. The standard motor in Magnesium. The Polestar is a fabulous car and so well specced throughout the range. I'm very happy with it. Polestar Dublin was excellent too. It felt like picking up a car 20 years ago. I'm so used to getting thrown the keys in the parking lot by VW.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 943 ✭✭✭n.d.os


    Can anyone help me with the Spotify App in the Polestar 2? I can't for the life of me find the stop or pause button in the app. There doesn't appear to be one at all.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 395 ✭✭Mythago


    At the bottom right of the screen where the current track playing is I think(I'll double check when I get ba k in the car). I just use the button on the centre console.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 943 ✭✭✭n.d.os


    I couldn't find one there. At the moment I'm just turning down the volume on the console. I didn't know there was a button on the console either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 395 ✭✭Mythago




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 943 ✭✭✭n.d.os


    Yours looks different, granted I am using the free version of Spotify as I've only recently moved from iTunes. The play button effectively does nothing. I set up a premium account tonight and I'll update the car app tomorrow. I noticed the progress bar wasn't working in the car or phone so I've reinstalled the app on my phone to fix that. I'll update the car tomorrow to hopefully fix all the glitches.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 395 ✭✭Mythago


    The on screen buttons all work for me, I do have premium but, that shouldn't matter. There have been a few mornings were spotify and the radio were slow to start and unresponsive for about 5 mins but, I updated the car to ver 2.7 on Saturday and it all seems snappier in general now. Also got footwear lights :)

    You can also reboot the infotainment by long pressing the bar at the bottom of the screen.



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