Kia EV9

Looks good alright. Guessing 80/90k here though

Hard to imagine it coming in under 70k. We’ve a Sorento plug in and it’s been a fantastic car. In terms of economy and practicality it’s just excellent. Had the older model diesel before it and both behaved flawlessly. Would be seriously interested in this.

€90K for a KIA ?? Madness

Really interesting car, it’s quite boxy is what my wife said and I couldn’t agree more. It reminds me of an X7 type frame, it really looks huge.

Will definitely be something I’d consider once our Kia Sorento is up next year. Id also be really interested to see what the equivalent Hyundai looks like. EX90 would be the dream but it’s way out of price range. Hopefully this and the Hyundai are reasonably priced.

Maybe 15 years, not anymore, I'd rather buy a new Kia over most brands, their range of cars is excellent.

This car looks good if you're looking for 7 seats, will be interesting to see how it drives.

I have been following the EV9 for a while as it looked like it could be great and I liked my EV6 a lot but would prefer somthing with more interior space.

I think the deal breaker with it might be range. Some specs leaked a while ago which suggested the range would be pretty poor:

https://insideevs.com/news/632735/kia-ev9-suv-specs-leak/

If this turns out to be the case I would be far less interested. The longest range one is only about 460km and I think that's with a 100kw battery! The most expensive one only does 380km!

Tesla Model Y standard range does same distance as the longest range EV9 with 60kw and potentially at not far off 1/2 the price of it.

The Model Y LR I have on order will do about 100km more again for a much lower price.

Anyway if this turns out to be wrong and it can do 500+km at a non crazy price I'd be very interested. I guess we'll see.

Unless it has similar range to an EV6 and comes in at around €70K, I think it will be a hard sell here.

the market has lost the run of itself. 4 years ago you could buy a new Golf R DSG for 51K the equivalent car now the cheapest new one available is 83K in FK and that’s a bloody VW golf they even have one listed at 97K that should be Porsche money not a tarted up hatchback

I agree with you there. Its ridiculous the price of some cars now but at least with the EV9 whenever it comes out it can carry up to 7 pasangers or just 6 if you prefer and is quiet big maybe even too big for these road do who knows.

Still if KIA can get a decent range in it and price it right it will still sell.

You're right. It's way out of hand and that is why people are buying Teslas. The model Y is sensibly priced. Maybe as more brands move online prices will drop. Also, we are experiencing a period of demand at the moment as many people couldn't get new cars during the pandemic.

A mid-sized family EV from a reputable brand should cost no more than €53k after the grant for a nice spec. Tesla is offering the Model Y way below that threshold and it's got everything. VAG prices are out of hand in particular and they are deliberately removing things from their cars and re-adding them as extras to push the price up. As an example, an ID4 business a year ago after the grant cost 53k. Now the exact same car spec for spec costs 63k, no grant given. This is why every ID4 registered this year will be a basic life model with absolutely no extras and a measly 174hp output. They now charge you more for the original power output. As someone who owns an ID4 you'd want to be out of your mind to buy an ID4 over a Tesla Model Y at the moment. Tesla, Polestar, Kia, and Hyundai are the brands to buy at the moment.

Maybe the Kia EV5 might be more suited.

Needs to be a 7 seater.

The cheapest Polestar is 51k and Model Y 47k at the moment so it's a difference of 4k. Polestar's APR rate is 3.9% on a PCP and Teslas 6.4%. Looks are subjective and I wouldn't rate one car over the other. The Polestar is a smaller car in the cockpit so in my opinion the Tesla is a better choice as a family car if space is important. That said, the polestar is in no way small inside. FWD vs RWD means nothing. If you are concerned about range, go with the Tesla. I travel from North Wexford to Dublin three times per week and use 45% of the battery up and back (winter range). I have a standard range single motor version.

I went with the Polestar as we already have a long-range ID4. I prefer the look of the Polestar inside and out and I felt the build quality was better than the Tesla. Tesla's range of colors and alloy wheel options do nothing for me. I think they could improve this. I disagree about spec, as the Polestar benefits from Android Auto.

Polestar is building a dealership as part of the Spirit Motor Group in Sandyford and come trade-in time I feel this is a more secure route instead of trying to shift the car privately to another dealer for very little money. All that said, I think the Tesla is the more sensible choice, for a lot of the reasons you listed above. I also think the Model Y is a lot of car for 47k. It's absolutely huge and you'd be mad not to buy it over a model 3.

Yes, the infotainment on the Tesla is excellent but I found I could do a little bit more on the Polestar, the big advantage being maps in my direct line of vision. I don't like the interior of the Model Y. I do a lot of motorway driving and wanted more of a cockpit feel.

Sorry, I forgot to add the delivery fee with the Polestar. You also pay a deposit of a further €1000 but that is refunded when picking up the car.

Unfortunately, very few of us can buy a car outright so the PCP deals do make a big difference, and the in the long run I save some money there with the lower APR rate.

The car comes with free servicing, I have solar panels on the house and I don't use public chargers so if we were picking at straws maybe I'll lose some money on the motorway with efficiency but I'm not losing any sleep over it.

I made the right choice for me so that's all that really matters. I think the Tesla is the more sensible choice as everything you pointed out is accurate and like you said, the cost of ownership is lower on the Model Y. I just didn't want one to be honest.

Tbf not everyone wants to or should drive a Tesla. It's actually fantastic that people aren't. Otherwise our roads would be boring used car market would suck and tesla would most definitely not give any value being a solo or major player. Monopolies don't.

We should celebrate other car purchases and not continually tell people a model Y is better value. They're not a fantastic place to be in tbh at all.

Tesla evangelising is tiring at this point. Most people who are buying an EV know all about them and don't need educating.

If space was zero concern I'd take the polestar over it any day.

I'd the same view initially, but (no pun intended) I reverse park into the drive (charge port on the back right corner) I seeing the rear almost daily for a year it has really grown on me, and then seeing it drive off with the full light bar lit adds to the look (IMO). Beauty in the eye of the beerholder and all that, plus my bias of it being my car and not something I'm going to change soon.

I expect the EV9 to be €70k+. I've no basis for that (other than it's massive), but I'll see if my KIA dealer has any info when I'm down there next week.

Nobbys first look.

It's even bigger than I thought.

Ridiculous size.