Wokeism of the day *Revised Mod Note in OP and threadbanned users*

Personally I would only blame the guilty ones who groom children into thinking they're trans.

Fruit-juice drinkers on the other hand....? Yeah, **** them!

Combining the two is fine - and frequently done - as long as find the dogging spots first.

And what, exactly, is an 'irregular sex education class'...?, or is this something than only exists in your head?

While we're here: do you think that homosexual teenagers have the same right to a relevant and equal sex eduation as heterosexual teenagers, yes or no?

I think you might need to go back and re-read the original comment I made #10932. It was a reply to:  

"if every one of us knows the answer, what's the point in asking the question?"

Because I didn't even mention trans debate or anything trans related until after you bundled me with two other members by multi qoute, stated that the question is a unquestionably a troll, and rule out all other possibilities like the asker being interested in differing definitions or a debate, and then call me naive if I thought as much. Which is a pretty aggressive 'agree with me or you're stupid or intentionally trolling' callout.

In my second reply I said the words 'transphobe weapon' not you, but you know that. I was being honest about what I was inferring from your posts and I was a little snarky considering you had completely ignored my question to you, and just absolutely refuse to budge or debate in a way that isn't offensive. You say here that I'm not getting it right but... we are going to have to agree to disagree.

You've given so many replies over the last few pages that you have to forgive me for thinking you consider the question "what is a woman" an aggressive tool. Just to pick one:

"having a debate about trans and asking 'what is a woman?' is basically saying 'I'm against this trans bullshit - prove me wrong!' and hoping someone acts aggressively, thus making him look like the rational one.

It's trolling and no one bit."

You hammer home the point again at the end of this newest reply. That "If you're asking "what is a woman?" you do not want a debate" and... I disagree. Heck even in the original video, the first answer given was "A woman is anyone who identifies as one", There you go. Theres an answer, a debatable answer.

Right so, I think I have this...

I believe a woman is a human being born with a vagina and develops breasts around puberty. What that human then decides which sexual preference she will be is irrelevant. I believe that changing that simple definition, and it is simple, erodes the hard work and sacrifice women (as per my definition) have had to put in just to be recognised. I believe that anyone can identify as whatever they want, but a woman is what I described.

Some people have a completely different definition of a woman, and without knowing their definition, any debate is already doomed imo. I take the question "What is a woman" as just that, a question, nothing more. It's the conversation following the reply that will define if that person is a troll or not. Simply jumping straight to that conclusion is just as bad as people who do use it as a loaded question.

I'm all for anyone being whoever or whatever they want to be. Go for gold, our paths will nearly guaranteed not cross, because I'm un-social now. The whole thing really doesn't affect me, and I genuinely couldn't care less about it, just like everyone involved genuinely couldn't care less about me, let's not start pretending humans care about EVERY complete stranger. So my next question is not coming from hatred, or anything like that. It's like the above, just (a) question(s).

Is it not wrong to be telling people that they are x gender, when they just can't biologically be? Is that not more dangerous? Because some day, imo, that realisation will hit again. Should we not instead be promoting trans as trans, be proud of it, own it, because it is something you can be. But you'll never be a wo/man as per my definition. I can't accept that, because it's just not true to me. I'm not saying that as an attempt to defeat or demean or any other words that paint me as a troll/phobe/etc. I just think it's dangerous to let people believe they are something they can't, in my and I reckon many peoples opinions, be. It's like telling 5'6" me to just believe I'm 6'2" and people will just accept it. Sorry, but no. I'd rather people helped/told me how to be a confident 5'6".

That's a very interesting question. Is a man having sex with a feminine presenting trans woman, a gay act?

I say no. Does that make me woke? Or a perve? Interesting question @Evade

I understand what you’re saying and honestly the main thing I took from the op was how a simple biology question has become a complicated ideological hot potato in such a short amount of time. It’s definitely interesting.

I’m conflicted on whether changing the actual definitions of ‘man’ and ‘woman’ is the correct choice, but it also is just kind of happening. Cambridge updated the definition about 3 months back.

It’s also happening without proper discussion because it gets shut down so quickly (by both sides) so neither side really gets heard, and those in the middle are left wondering why everyone’s lost their minds.

You can’t question it or debate it because you’ll be either labeled an outdated bigot or a delusional SJW by people who don’t want a debate or to explore the issue, they want to fight and prove the other side wrong.

I mean, “does the definition of woman need to change for trans acceptance?“ is a pretty interesting question and in context isn’t a million miles from “what is a woman” but again, I can agree to disagree and see where your coming from.

(Oh and Apology accepted 👍👍 I also apologise for being overly snarky in my second reply)

I'd agree with most of what you say, but again it depends on what the specific argument is.

I mean, you can't simply say 'it's a a trans debate' - because well: what are you debating? The idea that transpoeple do or do not exist? A biological woman/man is always a woman/man no matter what? Or a specific trans-issue? In which case, asking 'what is a woman?' doesn't clarfiy this.

I think the sentiment is very positive but I'm not sure how it can be effectively controlled as noise travels. It will be impossible to ensure all babies and young children in other areas are quiet, but maybe I'm overthinking it.

I didn't think of earmuffs and headphones, hopefully it goes well.

I see them all the time on kids at loud indoor sports events and arenas. Some of them even rent them out on the door.

Example:

https://letsgowiththechildren.co.uk/places-to-go/the-sse-arena/

did we not have this already for 2 years of covid.

The prototype is said to be a better fit for female space travellers.

When Nasa announced that humanity would return to the moon after more than five decades, they promised to send the first woman and person of colour to the lunar surface.

Well thank god for that !!!

I remember "coloured" was termed racist as it was reducing someone to define them by their skin colour - but seems "person of colour" is just fine... utterly bizarre really...

Again shouldn't they be sending the best astronauts regardless of gender, race, sexuality etc ??

I think we need a red head on the moon, there has never been a red headed Irish lad up there, let's get it done people!!!

MLK would be turning in his grave.