VW ID.3

I can understand it not being a standard, things like keyless and rear camera being extras I find boggling. I had 2014VW before no frills outside of set speed cruise control. The first day I used adaptive cruise control I was impressed no end, simple indicate and drift to the right to overtake on motorway was bliss! Experiencing the bumper car experience of staying in the lane was less fun.

Got a low battery warning a few weeks ago and every day until I changed it.

Just changed from my ID3 to a Cupra Born. My ID3 was 211 Style model with 23K kms. Also was one of the lucky ones to get the 3.0 OTA update. My ID3 is a very good car and with 3.0 % charge showing/ timed charging working- software was fine by me. The problem for me was lack of premium feel on internal furnishings (given high price of car) and to a lesser extent the external looks. IMO the Cupra Born beats the ID3 hands down for looks and premium feel inside and out. The facelifted ID3 is an improvement but still doesn't bring the car up to the internal quality of the Cupra. Also very importantly the Cupra is the same car functionally as the ID3. 2 weeks in and I am very happy with the Cupra and the choice that I have made.

Trade in price for the ID3 was good at about 10% or so depreciation to original cost price of the car in 2021. I think this just reflects the lack of 2nd hand supply in the market along with new car supply delays. This seems to be confirmed when you check asking prices for used ID3's on e.g. Carzone.ie. (crazy high) I think trade in prices could soften a lot in 9 months or so as a lot of ID3 cars will be coming off 3 year PCPs' etc and will come onto the market. I looked at the new ID3 facelift prices and for the style model I figured you are looking at close to eur50k post grant reductions etc. - honestly can't see VW selling many at those prices- given Tesla price reductions/ good quality (apparently) lower cost Chinese cars coming into the market. Also looks like EV grants are going to be reduced mid year to divert Govt money charging infrastructure (badly needed IMO). I suppose the other question is whether CUPRA prices will change much or not - I believe they have gone up 3% since the start of the year. My Cupra with extras was eur44k approx.

Without giving you the precise number it was around the 12k euro mark. My thinking was if I waited to replace the ID3 like for like the cost to change was going to be a lot more at current quoted facelifted car prices. The Cupra on the other hand has a better spec'd base model - sports seats/ kessy/ camera etc. So with a few additional judicious extras I got the Cupra considerably cheaper than an equivalent high spec ID3. That said, who knows- maybe prices of Cupras and ID3s' will reduce in the future to compete with cheaper EV brands?

I got €31,200 for my 212 ID.3 Life 204BHP, 58kWh with 64,000km a few weeks ago. It's currently up for sale for just under €34k. I think I did well enough.

Anyone notice the Widget now refresher's the kilometer's by tapping the top right hand corner.

Same here had to re login..Just tried the widget again and seems to work fine

Thanks @Ev fan , I'm 221 and thinking where abouts the inflection point is for resale - I really love my ID, hate the look of a Tesla and would be happy with another ID again, in an ideal world with added boot space.

I fear the tech in the cars is only going one way, and very worried every day will come with everything and then a subscription model to monthly unlock them, already there for some cars including ID's it think. Like every year some manufacturer comes out with a no frills cut down phone , yet they never take off, I think we have entered the age of more tech than car.

@Ev fan good comments, yes am kinda hoping my 221 buy means Im slightly less common than the bulk of firsts, kinda worried everyone will want a tour5. Re the battery tech, I think VW bought some solid state tech company about 2 years back - all dark since then. Regardless I don't see any new battery tech being on the <100k consumer side in the next 5 years. I think I will pay the dealer a trip towards years end if only to window shop. Yup just struggling this morning with boot tetris for a longish trip.

You have to bring out your inner CHAV to get the appeal of the copper effects. I've started to wear big medallions again to go with my copper alloys! On a serious note of course, it's down to personal preference as to what you might like. Here is my take on Cupra VS ID3 - on a number of points. Ist off I don't buy into the Born being sporty at all - it has the same performance as the ID3 with maybe a slightly better suspension/handling/steering IMO. My last 3 cars were the ID3, an egolf executive and a T Roc. The egolf has a gorgeous interior- the other 2 have a mediocre functional interior built to a budget. I honestly think that VW have a blindspot when it comes to internal furnishings - and yet they do a lot else so well. One major difference I think is that there is a full length centre console between driver and front passenger. When you sit in on the sports bucket seats you feel cocooned/cosy even pampered IMO. Peugeot cars I believe have the same reputation for internal "cosseting". The ID3 has a more open cockpit with a lot of open space and is minimalist- to be blunt cosy/cosseting it ain't! It feels bare and non premium with too much black plastic. On the Copper thing of course you could consider it a bit blingy- personally I find it inoffensive and for me it lifts the whole interior........maybe the copper is some sort of Spanish Iberian vibe! As they say to each his own.

36k!

That's what I got. It was €43k including service pack and OTR as far as I remember. I haggled €2k off and got it at €41k with 0% PCP.

My old car is up for sale now for €1,000 more than I sold it for at the end of last August. The buyer added 20K KM in 6 months.

I sold my A3 for 36k to a dealer and it's back up at 44k, the same price I paid for it in December. Every dealer offered me 36k. Where are people getting these amazing offers for their cars?