VW ID.2all concept

Will be 40k+ with IQ light and travel assist here, not 25k. Polo is now 30k+ and golf is pushing 40k.

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The scroll wheel looks a bit like the ones on the Skoda.

Not available until 2026 so you'd imagine demand for EVs will have gone through the roof by then so hopefully the manufacturers will have production and stock available.

Honest to goodness buttons. Yay!

Looks like the screen behind the sterling wheel may be fixed in position from the concept art, not moving with the wheel like other id cars)

If they can get it in here for sub-€30k, with it could be a very popular option.

To me the 220 bhp, 0 to 80 percent charge in 20 mins and 280 miles WLTP will be extra cost options.

Because VW make more money that way because a 28 k euros in Ireland ID2 won't need those features.

45 kwh battery pack, 0 to 60 in 9.6 seconds and 80 kW charging will do just fine for a lot of purchasers of an entry level EV doing mostly home charging with trips of less then 150 miles.

Those wanting more charging speed, bigger battery and power can be directed to the relevant options pack(s) at extra cost.

I like the current set up!

52kwh ID4 gets 350km, being smaller, lighter, new design. It Should have a battery around 40-45kwh

I think a lot of people must be like me and like the idea of EVs but don't like the idea of "radical" design. This car looks like a VW Golf. I like that. I like buttons and air intakes. We're in Germany so the 25k price for the base model might apply here. I just wish VW would use Android Automotive OS and not their own thing.

Yeah but we've seen a few new EVs recently with respectable towing capacity. I need a car that can tow my garden trailer. It's a 1.2t braked model but I could live with say the 900kg braked capacity of the Mégane. I couldn't live without towing of any sort. Loads of Germans have little trailers like that so I expect VW to sort it out. It'll have to become standard for Golf/Polo sized EVs to be able to tow them as their ICE based equivalents can today, and some EVs.

Maybe in Ireland but not in Germany. You can buy a basic unbraked 750kg garden trailer at the local DIY superstore in Germany for €500. They are a commodity item. About half my neighbours own this sort of trailer. The gardens are often bigger here so there's always green waste to dispose of. There's only so much compost you can use. I take four full 1m³ trailer loads of compacted leaves to the recycling place every autumn. That's the sort of thing people use these trailers for mostly. I wouldn't be any way unusual in doing so. If they don't own one, they hire one. My nearest trailer hire place is 2 minutes drive, the next two maybe 10 minutes in opposite directions. The DIY superstores all rent small trailers out too. IKEA will let you borrow them for free for a couple of hours. They are ubiquitous here. VW are going to have to address this as Renault has done with the Mégane. It may do VW absolutely no harm in Ireland but they design their cars for Germany. The lack of towing with the current ID range is often criticised here.

Can you just attach a tow hitch in Ireland even if the manufacturer doesn't allow it? Over here that would be an instant TÜV (NCT) fail. The vehicle registration document shows the braked and unbraked towing capacity and the maximum hitch weight. If this is all blank they know the car should not have a tow hitch of any kind.

The point is, and I've made it before on other threads concerning other manufacturers, is that you're paying for a car that comes with this hardware, and you're paying again for using it.

You're not paying less for a car if all these features are locked, and then paying upwards to unlock the features. You're paying for these features to be in the car because the manufacturers are certainly not discounting the car if you opt out of everything.

I get that argument but Id be concerned that this is the thin end of the wedge by manufacturers and wonder how long will elapse before you will be required to pay a subscription to actually drive the bloody car, i.e. you pay up front to have the car dropped at your door but you wont be able to drive it without signing up to a monthly subscription package

So 2k more than my ID4 😂😂

During the show VW said they are working on a smaller car for 20k but it won't be available until 2026/7. They also said that by 2030 a whopping 80% of their EU car sales will be EVs.