Picard 3x05- 'Imposters' ~~ { ** Spoilers Within ** }

Well that was a lovely surprise with Ro Laren back. Good episode so far. Have only half watched it. Will watch the rest later. Busy day for me today.

That was a great episode, thank god not too much Raffi - even worth an immediate rewatch

Like above the key is probably that

How did shaw known about below when it occurred in an alternate timeline?

I suppose they didn't want to waste the money they spent on the sets, including recycling last season's Ten Forward, so kept the Titan for longer.

Do none of these phasers have stun? And I'm pretty sure they didn't let out a bang when fired before.

Why couldn't Rafi have been the one to take the dive, with it going wrong in the process.

Gah damn. Michelle Forbes. What an absolute legend. Can't believe we've lost Ro Laren like that 😞 Absolute legend.

Yeah yeah, Worf funny moment... Jack Crusher.. Jason Bourne .. the Crusher Identity sure

but Ro 🙁

Fuck.

It is release a day later on Amazon/Paramount+ for UK/Europe.

Some people have sailed the high seas to watch it today.

@Drumpot

I enjoyed that. The plot has definitely been padded to last 10 episodes but the filler isn't awful. Five episodes in and no sign of **** itself yet.

I hope the reason the Changlings are doing this at least makes sense, they would have to have a pretty good reason to leave the link. Why are there no J'em Hadar? Production wise it would have been a spoiler but the masked aliens on Vadec's ship could have been them instead of what the subtitles called them.

Nice to see Ro back briefly and as a note to future me and anyone else don't look up ships on MA while the episode is still on the article will have spoilers.

With Ro back for an episode and Lore and Moriarty due at some point what are the chances that Barclay works at Daystrom now? Or that Ogawa or Mot will have an appearance?

Another great episode. A part of me wishes that Ro would somehow survive; that a random non changeling officer on the Intrepid had beamed her in just before the end.

I just hope the writers see the success of this season and see that Proper 25th Century Trek minus Raffi, Jurati and Elnor is a route to success.

@AllForIt

Why did Michelle Forbes turn down Deep Space Nine?

Forbes was later approached to reprise the character of Ro on Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, but she declined because she did not want a regular television role at the time; Nana Visitor's role of Kira Nerys was scripted as a replacement. Forbes was also offered the chance to return on Star Trek: Voyager, but again turned it down.

The Intrepid (yawn another memberberry name) was a TMP era design just like Titan-A and designed by the same guy Bill Krause. We never get actual new ships in this show.

Also the Bladerunner planet, 10 Forward, corridor sets are getting ridiculously obviously overused.

The pacing is a bit weird too... we're halfway through, but it feels like we're only just barely stepping into the actual story now. They've not left themselves a lot of time to actually properly deal with the whole story of the changelings infiltrating Starfleet, and the whole organisation being compromised... this is kind of the problem with these massive scale stories - they're gonna have to just shovel narrative at us for the next 5 episodes if they want to explain everything and finish the story. Smaller stories give you so much more room to breath, and explore the characters (which they've done reasonably well up to now).

Beverly's initial message is kind of annoying me now... feels like a hat on a hat. Her first message was all "don't tell anyone, trust no-one", but she doesn't seem to have known anything about any of this, and didn't seem to have any misgivings about Starfleet - she just didn't want her criminal son arrested. But now, after that, it's like "Ooooh, but now REALLY trust no one!". There was just no need for that first message to be so cryptic, when it totally undercuts everything that comes later. She could just as easily have said "delicate situation - come alone", and then the infiltrated Starfleet thing comes as a bit of a surprise, instead of something Picard and Riker were already talking about in episode 1 purely based on her message.

There was a USS Intrepid in the US Navy so it has a real history but they should mix it up a bit and bring recycle the Hood or Crazyhorse. Or bring in a Saratoga only for it to be heavily damaged almost immediately.

More likely they just got a lot more sophisticated at mimicking human insides since they knew humans were doing more tests. They already showed that the Great Link had the capacity to do so when they turned Odo into a solid.

She gives sort of a nebulous "wherever we go, people seem to be trying to get Jack" rather than any specific thing of being attacked by starfleet. It's not a huge deal, but it just tips off a surprise a few episodes too early for no useful reason.. her messaging could just as easily been for him to keep it quiet, rather than the dramatic 'dont trust starfleet' way it was dealt with. That message led to Picard and Riker actively talking about Starfleet being compromised far earlier than was good for the story. Would have been stronger if that sort of idea was held back until just now so it could land with more weight.

The broad mechanics have been decent this season thankfully, but the writing of the details still often feels very shonky and half thought out. Like they threw down some placeholders, and then never went back to fix them (like the immense coincidence of Raffi somehow being involved in this whole same story as well, coming from a completely different direction).

That only happened in Star Trek Online, not in canon works afaik.

As others have said that didn't happen in screen canon. The Jem'Hadar aren't addicted to the white either it's physiological need like food or water because the Founders created them to be reliant in it.

Is the Intrepid a new class of ship in this? I was expecting a Voyager type of ship but it looks like that era ship has been retired. Funny though I think the intrepid class (a la Voyager) looked a bit better than the ship replacing it. More modern even. I also would expect the voyager era type to be still in service. 30 years isn’t very long really.

Yeah that’s my point. They’re more like successors to the tos era excelsior and constitution classes than what you’d expect post sovereign and intrepid class designs to look like. I’m not really complaining but they’re but what I’d expect.

Was it just me or did they just draw the Bajoran nose ridges onto Michelle Forbes's face rather than get a prosthetic.

Always assumed she died in the Maquis war. Guess she's dead now. (or is she🤔)