Cost of a United Ireland and the GFA

The current governments time is nearly up. Unlikely to be a BP this decade so why would the current government be under pressure?

On the money there,you are correct.

What are MLMCD and MON doing in the States right now

Promoting Ireland for jobs- no

Making contacts to get more FDI for the country- no

Trying to part Irish Americans with hard cash to keep their idealistic badly planned ideal alive-yes.

Anyone with an ounce..a gramme of sense knows that now is not the time to be importing problems into our country.

Will most of those who so fervently want this issue front and centre right now have to fund it……Will they F**k.

They will sit back and blame any Govt who is unlucky enough to be in power if it happens any time soon.

Now is not the time for this, nobody is ready, not by a long shot.

According to the media an election could happen this year and if not, it will be 2025. BP is not on the horizon just yet. Laughable to suggest there is pressure on the current government. Maybe the next might but to be honest i doubt that'll be the case either with the lack of support for unity.

I can say that given the problems this country has right now the most irresponsible thing he could do is taking

any notice these clueless idealists have of trying to shove anything to do with a UI up front and centre.

Not the time.

We should be prepared and should plan for it just in case. But I don't believe there is any pressure to either plan for it or a border poll. Time is on our side , all the opinion polls show little support for unity. Can't see people demanding a border poll in these circumstances.

Just because a poll says the majority want a BP doesn't mean there is pressure on the government. Don't see any evidence of pressure and with support for actually voting yes consistently poor, can't see any change.

If future polls were to say it was a major election issue then possibly but it never has been in the past.

Do you really think boards is that influential?? A bunch of bored middle aged men arguing on a dying platform. No offense to anyone. I wouldn't do it if i didn't enjoy it but seriously do you really believe what you wrote in the last paragraph?

Yet the same ones tell us how great everything is and how privileged we are when anyone points out the housing crisis, the HSE situation or any other criticisms of the current government, Bren.

Which is it? Are we one of the luckiest, most privileged societies in the world.....or is our proverbial kitchen on fire?

I believe there are those here petrified about where this is going. They all poo up whenever the subject arises. If you weren’t worried/under pressure you wouldn’t be so anxious. Stands to reason.

Same applies in the political sphere.

It will be addressed in the manifesto’s of political parties I reckon.

SF will most likely promise action on a CA and a plan if they go into government.

The ‘majority’ in favour of a poll will have no issue with that and once complete then you can hold a valid poll.

Why would it feature? Successive governments have suppressed any manifestation of our constitutional aspirations.

It will take political leadership to put it front and centre. Again, that is why Varadkar etc go on the attack if it finds itself at the centre of the news-cycle via the action of SF.

Both FF and FG are trying to find a way to be the leaders of the last push to end partition. It kills them that they might sound like or be identified with the Shinners but they know the day is coming.

The majority of the public in both jurisdictions want a Border Poll. Which does not reflect FF and FG's public utterances

BTW You could also have said that about any referendum that was campaigned for by activists, here or elsewhere. The government resists until the government doesn't that is par for the course.

Also, there is apathy and then there is outright resistance. What Leo etc is doing is 'resisting' any moves towards the constitutional aspiration coming from the great nenesis - SF, while positioning themselves to try and lead a Border Poll campaign. FG changing their constitution to stand candidates in NI and FF's Shared Island project. etc. That is evidence of the pressure to do something. The pressure for a Citizen's Assembly is growing, I think you will see that happen soon.

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"Why would it feature"

Which is it Francie, there is momentum towards a BP or it is being suppressed?

The % Catholic increased by less than 1% since the GFA (think it is 0.6%). Only 75% of Catholics want unity. If that is maintained then you are multiple generations away. You'd need a 70% Catholic cohort based on current patterns. Demographics alone are not going to achieve a UI. The link is evidence of nothing. Ireland Future events have had no impact and Harvey is back moaning on twitter.

The government changed its position on SSM because of the momentum behind it . FF/FG continued lax approach to unity is because there is no pressure on them and that is reflected in the opinion poll linked by another poster where unity doesn't feature as a major issue.

And the same polling shows it would be roundly rejected by at least 2:1 in the North. Forcing a border poll that would be massively defeated in the North would set back the prospect by generations.