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  • Registered Users Posts: 271 ✭✭Seanmadradubh


    Text of Timothy Snyder's briefing to the United Nation's Security Council called by Russia to discuss "Russiaphobia".

    His response to a question by the Russian representitive is (not to put too fine a point on it) fu*king brilliant.

    TLDR: It's a load of bollocks and the biggest threat to Russian "culture" is Russia itself.

    Post edited by Seanmadradubh on


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,652 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    A couple of interesting Aviation matters this morning.

    1. Over Greece at the moment, a Q4 Reaper , similar to the one that was brought down by Russia, ( under instruction from the Kremlin, it now seems), is on its way to the Black Sea. Keep an eye on it. It's transponder is ON at the moment, but will soon be OFF as it transits towards the Black Sea. I was up close to one at Farnborough a few years ago. They are bigger than one would expect.

    2. Here we see a Russian designed and built TU-214 in the air near Moscow. Its from the Special Flight Squadron and is an example of the few Russian built aircraft not completely harmed by sanctions. This exact aircraft makes almost daily flights to Beijing. In a recent discussion, at the Duma, it was stated by engineers that it wasn't Sanctions that was the challenge, but qualified personnel. Russia wants to ramp up the production to 10 per year to try to replace Western jets. See quote under the following picture.

    "Participating in the discussions during the visit of Borisov to Kazan was UAC's General Director, Yuri Sluysar. He told the deputy Prime Minister that the company was ready to revamp production of the aircraft, with the facilities in Kazan having recently gone through modernization.

    However, Mr Slyusar acknowledged that one of the main issues would be attracting qualified personnel to support the increased output, a problem previously reported during a hearing in the Duma towards the end of last year"



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,926 ✭✭✭dogbert27


    One tactic that could be used is for Ukraine or the west to engage direct communication with Prigozhin.

    That would feed his ego and encourage him further to go against Putin and also may force Putin's hand to initiate whatever plans he has against Prigozhin.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭TheRepentent


    males sense...where else would you get ruzzian w@nkers

    Wanna support genocide?Cheer on the murder of women and children?The Ruzzians aren't rapey enough for you? Morally bankrupt cockroaches and islamaphobes , Israel needs your help NOW!!

    http://tinyurl.com/2ksb4ejk


    https://www.btselem.org/



  • Registered Users Posts: 510 ✭✭✭AerLingus747


    He was at that big meeting in St Petersberg a month or two back.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    He’s the one guy allowed to go “off script”, even if that is scripted too.

    LOL at the video playing in the background 😅



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,681 ✭✭✭Economics101


    Great piece by Snyder. It should be sent to the dreadful Edward Horgan, another of the Irish Times letter-writing ship of useless fools:

    The level of whataboutery is stunning: Horgan mentions Afghanistan, only to condemn the USA and NATO: the root of the problemL the earlier Russian invasion and occupation is of course neglacted. Horgan also refers to Iraq, nover mentioning that Gulf War I was waged e to counter an invasion of a peaceful neighbour - Kuwait. As for Gulf War II, while it was a bad misstake, it did not witness the almost genocidal behaviour of the Russian invaders, and Iraq was never a benign peaceful place under Saddam.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,145 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    It's the little not paricularly headline things in the background far from the front that keep adding to the death by a thousand cuts for Russia:

    It looks like Turkey is now refusing to service and refuel Russian Boeing and Airbus or any marque that contains 25% US made or licenced parts(which would include some Russian airframes too) commerical aircraft, cargo, private, chartered or otherwise. They've been largely playing both sides from the start, but if this sticks it looks like they've decided which side to now bet on.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,566 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    There are lots of people on the Western/Ukrainian side who are asking these questions. If people want to plug their ears and shout "orc propagandist", that is fine.



  • Registered Users Posts: 10,799 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    Tbf, a million or so dead iraqi civilians as a result of GW2 is a bit more than a bad mistake.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,801 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    I'm not plugging my ears, if something seems strange or a little off, there's probably a reason. And low and behold it's all based on a solider giving inaccurate information. Something we've seen before unfortunately.




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,681 ✭✭✭Economics101


    Most estimates are well short of 1 million deaths. More importantly, these deaths are predominantly from sectarian and civil conflict within Iraq after the war. The big US mistake was (a) to totally disband the Iraqi army and (b) to grossly underestimate the task of putting Iraq on a sustainable and relatively peaceful future.

    The virtually genocial actions of Russia in Ukraine are in a totally different league.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,145 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    A chunk of Americans are confused by the many narratives you get in a free press competing for their attention they see "Fake News" everywhere. A chunk of the Russian mindset is so confused by their leader's bullshít they see "Fake News" everywhere. Confusion is their common language.

    BTW the damaged prop has stripes. The sun angle is different. And why in god's name would anyone fake it? Makes zero sense. Next we'll be onto the "wrong" shadows Moon landing didn't happen level of smooth brained idiocy.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Slovakia to join Poland and send 11 mig 29s to ukraine that they decommissioned last year, apparently none of them are currently operational, could take time to be returned to service that or be canibalised for other aircraft




  • Registered Users Posts: 16,566 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    Kupol isn't an isolated incident. Here's what an intelligence officer fighting in Vuhledar had to say only today.

    I hope that I am wrong, and you and most people here are right. I hope the Russians are actually close to exhaustion and that a sweeping counter offensive can liberate a large part of occupied Ukraine this Spring. Unfortunately I don't see it happening anytime soon.



  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling




  • Registered Users Posts: 3,855 ✭✭✭Rawr


    Invoking Godwin a bit, but these "You are all only just pro-Ukraine" bot arguments make me wonder how a 1940's Boards would discuss the antics of Nazi Germany.

    When dealing with an obvious totalitarian facist regime like these, I don't feel like there is a possibility to have a debate where both sides can possibly be shown to be "in the right". The facist regime, in the process of trying to erase another nation, can't be defended without simply lying. The Nazis of the past and Russia of today cannot be defended unless your moral compass is broken or entirly missing, and the fact that debates tent to point to Russia being in the wrong isn't becuase of just opinion, but because reality made it that way.

    Russia is in the wrong. No amount of counter-opinion (be it real or bot-generated) will change that.



  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,652 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    Save this post folks. It shall age well. Regarding the "temper tantrums", they are fortunately part of the usual life-cycle of the low-postcount/ pro-russian keyboard warriors. Observe:

    1. Re-register on Boards

    2. Underestimate the intelligence and overestimating the gullibility of the good people of the thread by posting the usual diatribe.

    3. Frustration sets in due to the reaction to the easily-refuted "facts" and predictions.

    4. Frustration leads to temper tantrums.

    5. Temper tantrums lead to behaviour unbecoming of a boardsie.

    6. The low-postcount comrade is removed.

    And the cycle begins. Again and again.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,971 ✭✭✭Soups123


    The butt hurt is just too enjoyable to read. The desperation tells the real story



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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,947 ✭✭✭circadian




  • Registered Users Posts: 5,977 ✭✭✭Yeah_Right


    I think you need some more English language lessons. You clearly don't actually understand what was written in that article. Is your tutor a native speaker or is English their second language as well?



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,652 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    Spotted this a few minutes ago. A very old, Polish-built and designed trainer aircraft, the T-11, just airborne over Poland. This aircraft was withdrawn from service in 2011. Its most unusual to see one airborne. There are 30 left in roughly flyable condition. With 4 hard points on the wings, a possible aircraft for Ukraine?

    In the right hands, it would make a great straffer, rocket platform or light ground-attack. Reminds me of our venerable Fouga Magister back in the day.




  • Registered Users Posts: 5,801 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    But those points are completely different than the previous points you posted.

    The previous ones in short:

    Needing 5 battalion of tanks for the counteroffensive, they may only get 3 (how someone can calculate that is beyond me)

    Little chance of Ukraine having a counter offensive.

    Massive losses in bahkmut (the source looks to be giving false figures) and implying it's like that all along the front line.

    Shortage of shells on the Ukrainian side (some speculate they are holding them back for a counter offensive) and the shortage of shells on the Russian side is all planned (what ever the **** that means)

    Most major arms deliveries to ukraine will be 2024 onwards. I believe it's only the Abrams are that far out.

    Do you not find the above points odd?

    Maybe you do, maybe you don't, but you find another completely different set of points (which look like valid concerns) and use that to reinforce your belief that the first set of tweets is correct. It's like you have a narrative and use any tweets to reinforce it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,428 ✭✭✭macraignil


    Just another day of the muskovytes beating Ukraine to the punch by attacking in the snow and mud:




  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,584 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Armed Forces commands are not exactly renowned for appreciating commanders discussing heavy losses, whether accurate or not.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,584 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    That is a dreadfully written article.

    Ukrainian soldiers are fighting against the Russian Army which is some ten times larger.

    This is simply false

    A Ukrainian journalist who spoke to soldiers in Bakhmut on the front lines reportedly claimed Ukrainian troops had told her, “The average lifespan for mobilised fighters in Bakhmut is four hours.”

    Sounds scientific...



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,704 ✭✭✭✭briany


    I have to say that the quality of trolling was much better at the start of the Russian invasion proper. In most instances they were at least attempting to give the illusion of good faith before overstepping and getting squashed with the banhammer.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,801 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    It was to compare the life expectancy of a troll on here and Russian soldier in Bahkmut so relax it wasn't comparing the quality of trolls vs quality of articles written.

    There's also a US ex-marine fighting there who told ABC news. I'd assume he estimated and wasn't constantly watching the clock or counting Mississippi's.



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