Ukraine (Mod Note & Threadbanned Users in OP)

If one Ukrainian was being killed for every 3 or 4 Russians then Russia would win the war. The ratio needs to be at least one to 10.

Ukraine was not a military power, Russia has one of the largest militaries in the world.

Every Western analyst predicted that Ukraine would fall in weeks if not days when Russia invaded in 2022. They didn't. Not only that but they even pushed the Russians back. They've done extraordinarily well, that doesn't make them infallible. Stop confusing optimism with a "timetable". It's a fluid dynamic situation, we all want Ukraine to prevail, but this war doesn't have some script you've imagined you were told..

And there it is, that child-like "we were told" thing. They performed above and beyond anyone's expectations. They've been destroying the Russian military equipment at the rate of at least 4 to 1. Despite that, the Russian military is still massive. They have vast resources. Their country is not under attack (whereas Ukraine has an infrastructure constantly under attack). Russia is slowly and gradually adapting. They have unmolested train lines of ammo and shells just flowing to the front. Ukraine are fighting with just about every disadvantage possible, yet somehow they are still holding them back.

No one knows precisely what's going to happen, as expressed by literally everyone, but the Ukrainians have to keep their optimism and so does it's allies.

You seem to think it's like a company with a roadmap and you're "angry" they aren't sticking to the roadmap.

Just because you don't understand the conflict doesn't mean everyone else doesn't. Europe is under attack by a dictator who will never stop, Ukraine is, for now, stopping him. It's perfectly legal for countries to support Ukraine defend itself (and by extension defending Europe). The majority of people in most countries support Ukraine. I'm guessing you're probably from Europe, but it's hard to tell when people sound like they are from the Russian ministry of defense.

Individuals, like yourself, who blame the West for everything and indirectly parrot all the lines from the Kremlin, who want to reward Putin with Ukrainian land and support Putin prevailing in the name of "peace" are not a majority.

No one wants this war, everyone wants peace, but we don't have a choice. Putin will never stop unless stopped. Feeding him land just encourages it more. Ukraine is wearing down his war machine and paying for that in blood. If we aren't supporting Ukraine, we are enabling Putin.

A kill ratio of 1 to 4 means almost certain death for young Ukrainian men, that’s all I am saying. The Russians cannot refuse to fight, they are even using prisoners as cannon fodder. From what we are hearing the kill ratios are vastly higher than 1 to 4 anyway so should not be an issue.

I'm sure you do have many friends in Russia from the sounds of it.

This "They told us" line again.

I'm expecting a long war, I've said this for a long time. It's currently close to a stalemate, and most people are perfectly aware of that. They still support Ukraine. Again, you're confusing support and morale for Ukraine as sort of "schedule" that you're getting angry at.

Russia has been making gradual incremental gains in Bahkmut and elsewhere, everyone knows this, it's all over the news. You seem to live in a fantasy world where the public doesn't know this.

In fact your entire point seems to hinge on you projecting your lack of knowledge on the war on everyone else.

The Russian military are using mercenaries, getting munitions from N Korea, using rockets and tanks from the 60's, units and troops are openly addressing commanders and Putin in videos complaining that they don't have proper training, or proper weapons, or adequate supplies. And that's just one year in. I can go on and on. Russia is still a potent large military force, but there are many, many cracks showing. Maybe they'll dig in and it will be a stalemate for 5 years, maybe they'll make slow incremental gains, or maybe front or units will crack. Ukraine may never recapture back all it's territory, but they don't have any choice, the second they stop fighting, then your Russian friends murder and torture and rape their way to Kyiv and beyond.

It's like you have no problem with that. It's obvious you want Europe/US to stop supporting Ukraine so that Putin will prevail.

You aLso need to factor in

(@) the number that have left Moscovy in order not to be conscripted

(b) the belief in ‘the cause’. I recon it’s much stronger on the Ukr side

International criminal court issues an arrest warrant for Vladimir Putin on War crimes charges including charges relating to the forced deportation of Ukrainan children to Russia to be illegal adopted.

Bakhmut holds.

But as I've Said since day one and ukraine are winning,and will keep winning, putin is a wanted man ,they are on their 4 mobilisation and still losing against a military that barely existed a few years ago.

Russia will collapse and collapse spectacularly,no ukraine,no Crimea,no Moldova,no Belarus and will likely loss territory to the Chinese eventually,

Meanwhile ukraine joins the EU and Nato putin the master strategist hey ....

You seem to have missed the point of what the Russians do to Ukrainians in any territory they have captured. The ongoing discovery's of hundreds of bodies of men, women and children buried in trenches, hands bound behind their back's, and bearing all the marks of having being tortured before being cold bloodily executed. And you ask if their young population will fight??? I would safely say that this generation of young Ukrainians great grand children will fight Russian's anyway they can. For them, its an existential matter. The question is how long more will Russians allow Putin to kill them? As for the kill ratio....if its so high presently, under existing conditions, what do you think will happen when all this new military hardware comes on stream?

What's curious is that people are still so easily fooled by Putin and his misinformation.

I don't know why you make Bakhmut falling out to to such a big deal for the Ukrainians. Losing a small town is a small price to pay for killing tens of thousands of Russians soldiers and holding up the Russians for months. Remember, in this time the Ukrainians have been receiving newer equipment while the Russians have been depleting their ammo with very few replacement sources available.

The US are delighted watching Russia weakening (crippling) itself, both militarily and economically, for no good reason. The Ukrainians are delivering fantastic results for the US, it may be monetarily expensive for them but with no American lives lost, they will feel they are getting a great deal.