Irish Traveller culture to be promoted through school curriculum: Posted on BBC website!

It's not hate, it's reality. They have nothing in their culture in the recent past that i'd want my grandchildren to be subjected to in school. We see enough of it at their weddings, funerals and fights. Ut's a culture nobody wants to witness. Good luck to you but i'm out too. You got the chance to prove your point but didn't even try to make an effort and we know exactly why, you couldn't.

No no, it's the settled folks fault.

I don't think anybody or any culture is inferior.

I am simply stating that criminality is disproportionately higher among travellers.

I don't really see any link between crime and culture.

I see culture as music, song, dance, literature, sport, cinema, etc.

I don't think any culture is inferior, it's just that I can't see that there is much traveller culture?

Is there much literature, poetry, cinema?

There is success in boxing, okay.

There doesn't seem to be much to teach?

You'll only get abuse for asking those sort of questions. She has no answers and resorts to that kind of sock answer all the time.

Traveller's make up a tiny proportion of the population. They have little or no representation in positions of authority and many live in extreme poverty. That's pretty much what I mean by a weaker group.

The poster had stated they were fine with Travellers when they lived along the roads, travelling to fix tools. I'm asking is it expected they still live like this, which has a sad irony given the criminalisation of their traditional lifestyle.

What's woolly about my posts? Am I 'only asking', 'just stating', 'merely observing', because that would be woolly right?

I don't know what you mean by 'within the government actions'?

Do you know of senior civil servants that are Travellers? Judges? Political Consultants?

I really don't sorry.

This stuff always makes me laugh...what are they gonna promote? how it's okay to systematically abuse animals? maybe how to race sulkies safely on motorways? or maybe how to steal everything that's not nailed down? maybe how to drop out of school early, how not to work, how to make life miserable for every tax payer in the country?...I mean these are only some of the vaulable life skills traveller culture has to offer.

Disingenuous in the extreme.

I don't know that these issues are typically dealt with at primary school level.

Also, given that such awful practises exist in many other cultures, I don't see the value in making education around them Traveller specific.

I shared some writings earlier from a Traveller writer who suggested Traveller women are less likely to report, and less empowered to challenge, such abuses because of their marginalized position.

I wholly support any education practices that challenge abuse of women. So as not to be counterproductive, I'd suggest they should look at the many ways women can be abused and mistreated across cultures, with our own settled culture being no less culpable.

Fair play to this woman, and yes, this male-dominated lifestyle / culture is not helpful.

No.1 - they shouldn't be dealt with in primary school. Moral code should be driven by one's close family. Not the school.

No.2 - again parents. They marginalise themselves. I don't like people who blame others. Take responsibility. No chance.

No.3 - across cultures. And I use culture in this particular instance with an amused look on my face. Abusing women, ney girls is not a fault of the "culture"? No responsibility? Families shouldn't intervene?

But we should? Explain please?

What is your point exactly? There are many cultures that are patriarchal and misogynistic, and which treat women and girls as chattel, we all know that. Traveller culture is one such culture. What has this got to do with anyone else? You're waffling and obfuscating. If Traveller girls are being married off and used as brood mares when they're underage, it's something we need to tackle and acknowledge as a Traveller issue in Ireland. We owe it to those girls and women. It's people like you who let them down with the "ah shure it's their culture and besides, it's not just them" nonsense.

I've read through this thread and I still have no idea what would be included in the syllabus.