The eviction ban

Paint it whatever you wish. If you are a social tenant and you don't work, your rent is free. Paying 30 quid a week out of your dole is not a contribution. That assumes the 30 quid is paid, which often it isn't.

Those key workers include nurses, teachers and shop workers. There's loads of people on minimum wage who are "key workers" Plus there's existing communities. We can't force people out because another group want to live there. It's effectively a mini plantation.

Making sense again. I would have a lot less of an issue with key workers being subsidised in prime locations. For those who sponge the dole and claim for everything when doing nothing....up off yer arse and do nothing somewhere else. Maybe if Dublin buys Leitrim for a few hundred grand, we can put em all there 😂

We should build affordable rentals for low income and key workers. There is probably also a case for building affordable homes for sale. The state could probably build entire estates, 50% affordable rentals and 50% affordable homes at scale and for a reasonable price. The HAP system would remain for those who aren't working.

it would be a few hundred billion for your classist clensist plantation nonsense which in some sense could be classed as a form of genocide, and would likely breach international law.

in reference to your other post, the fact it boils your blood that you chose to buy a house yet are whinging because someone got a subsidized house they have been deemed to be entitled to shows you are in fact the real self-entitled one if i'm honest.

you are going to get a property and will own it assuming you keep up the repayments for which it is actually the bank's house until you pay back the loan in full.

the subsidized tenant on the other hand will never own the property they are living in.

A lot of people who live in sought after areas and payed for it the hard way absolutely do have an issue with it, I know many.

The worst is new developments where people are paying over 600k or 700k for a house and half of the development is given to social housing.

People are getting screwed on house prices, screwed on tax and then their tax is going to pay for their neighbour's house so they get the same home without paying for it. Many are gaming the system also.

Genoicide is a bit dramatic.

There is an inherent and incontrovertible logic to trying to make most efficient use of resources. It would seem a bit silly to allocate scarce resources to a person who doesn't actually need them.

Let's suppose you are in charge of housing for a day. You have two houses you can allocate, one in Dundalk, and one in East Wall. You have two 38 year old applicants for those houses, both from inner-city Dublin. John who has worked in Dublin city centre for the past 20 years since he turned 18, and Jim who, by choice, has never worked, and will likely never work. He gets up around noon every day, spends a few hours in the bookies and goes to the pub or has a few cans in the evening. John starts at 7am every morning. There is a bus that leaves Dundalk at 5am that will get him into work on time most days.

You get to make the choice - which one do you think would be better to put in East Wall and which one would you put in Dundalk?

ultimately that is just the problem for those who have an issue with someone else getting what they believe to be a better deal on a similar property to them.

in reality it's actually not really a better deal at all as the individual being subsidized will never own the property.

the same individuals would be complaining, even though they will deny it, if someone got the same property for 400k or 300k, but unfortunately sometimes people get a better deal on something they buy and yes it is a bummer when it happens but it's not going to change.

Ya wha?

Of course it is. It absolved Councils of the responsibility to build estates like they used to.

Well as long as it's in place, they won't be able to build their own housing.

If you support a rigid adherence to "mixed developments" then you are de facto supporting the position where only the private sector builds, and the councils should never build anything of significance.

they are able to build, they are refusing to build.

that is even if they are allowed to build in the first place which i suspect they aren't.

we have to remove the old bigotries and eradicate classism, mixing people does this eventually.

Councils already have plenty of land. They don't need to buy more. What they currently do though is turn it over to private developers in return for the developers building a percentage of social housing that the Council will then pay them for.

If the person paying the ~90% subsidised rent had a job and earned their own money, then it wouldn't be free. As it stands, if the dole is the method of paying this rent, then it's free.

How have you formed the opinion that moving freeloaders to less prime real estate to be a form of genocide? Had a few pints for Paddies day have you?

Moving these people would not cost billions. Done over a period of 10+ years, it would generate revenue from the sale and market rate rental of these properties. This revenue could be used to build more properties which is very much needed.

You want to know what makes me entitled? I work hard and I pay my way. When someone is handed the keys to an asset worth on average 400k because they chose to leach from the system, of course it boils my blood. I'm working to support the freeloaders as well as my own family. That money could and should be spent on deserving items, such as health and education and oh I don't know....maybe our chronically underpaid defense forces.

You talk about me getting to own my property after the mortgage is paid. What point are you making there? I pay more in property tax each year than freeloaders have paid for them in rent. If I need to extend my property, I pay about a hundred grand for a kitchen extension. If a social tenant needs to extend, it gets paid for, or they get offered a different property. The freeloading council tenant doesn't need to own the property. They have their forever home with periodic upgrades given free of charge.