Enoch Burke turns up to school again despite sacking - read OP before posting

It was widely reported back at the start of all this hoo-hah. Long time ago, I know.

Now of course the reporting could be wrong. I wasn't there, you weren't there. So then we come to the intuituon phase and, as I said to your earlier I fint the student making the request far more believable than the faculty doing it. That doesn't mean I'm right of course.

What is “intuition phase”? Are you saying it differs from that the parent’s position on the matter?

I see you have edited you post to delete the intuition phase.

From what I can tell there was a meeting at which the student and one parent met with the year head and one other school official. The principal was also present, but only for a small part of the meeting. In that meeting there was a request that the student be referred to by a new name. The student also made it clear to the school staff that they did not want to be referred to by the gender specific pronouns that had been used for them in the past. Apparently it was someone other than the student that suggested the they/them pronouns, but everyone at the meeting agreed that they should be used for the student going forward.

This of course presumes that the quotes in the Independent article (https://archive.is/pIZqp) are accurate. It isn't clear if the email from the parent mentioned in that article came from the same parent that attended the meeting or not. Obviously the current principal wasn't at the meeting, but his account comes from having spoken to the two members of staff that were there.

And of course none of that really matters as far as Enoch Burke's situation. Because none of it had anything to do with why he was suspended and then fired. That was entirely due to his own actions.

The place has about 400 students - statistically speaking, it would have roughly 40-50 LGBTQ students.

That is what they did report. It has been covered multiple times in this thread how inaccurate some of the reporting has been.

Why did the school say the pupil wanted to be referred to by pronoun “ they”?

Obviously the child’s parent felt strong enough to correct what the school claimed. If the school hadn’t made it an issue, would it be an issue?

My understanding is about 10% of males identify as homosexual and females about half that. My own personal anecdotal belief is that the numbers are more equal. So a range from 30-50 would be about correct.

Parents are recognised as the primary educators of their children and are entitled to homeschool their children. The failing here is the lack of any oversight, which would surely require new legislation.

The Burkes are an extreme example, and the 10 siblings have undoubtedly been indoctrinated, isolated and controlled to the point where they can't function in society. It is sad that their lives have turned out like this and I can't see a way back for them, but there's no point in MM acknowledging this publicly if measures aren't going to be taken to prevent it happening again.

I've said it before, but the wasted potential in that family is tragic.

Wrong. 1.5 percent.

Roughtly 10% of the Western European population identify as gay, lesbian or bisexual (EDIT - 7% of 89%). Not sure about trans and non-binary, pubably not much more than a two or three percentage points. official population of WCH is 410 students.

Edit - IPSOS poll said:

Source - https://www.ipsos.com/sites/default/files/ct/news/documents/2021-06/LGBT%20Pride%202021%20Global%20Survey%20Report_3.pdf

@tayto lover - bare in mind: my claim was 10%-ish of the student body was LGBTQ - not 10% gay

When I had to homeschool during the pandemic, I realised that a) It wasn’t my thing and b) the kids are much happier at school with their friends and having a bit of independence. I have friends who homeschool but their kids are very well socialised. There definitely needs to be some regulation to check that homeschooled children are getting everything they are missing out on in a school environment. That they learn teamwork, acceptance and tolerance of other people who have different views. Although maybe that’s why people like the Burkes do it so they don’t have to be tolerant and can control their children's minds?

Im not hating on homeschooling, it works for some people but clearly not for all as we see with the Burkes. They all have such huge potential but that mother has destroyed them. Her smug face makes me sick to my stomach! Evil woman!