Ireland v England Grand Slam Decider 2023

I think the Super12 trials are only going to add another level of confusion for the refs.

On top of that, as I mentioned earlier in thread the concept that you can clatter someone's head, end their game due to a head injury and then the offending team reverts to a 15 man team in 20 minutes is a joke. I think it's the worst of both worlds.

When you're involved with coaching minis rugby there's no grey area as regards tackle height and potential head knocks. If my 9 year old players can do it, so can professionals. It's not rocket science.

Yes we should allow more injuries and head injuries and as a result of that more court cases and less people playing the sport in the short and long term. less parents who will want their kids playing and even watching the game which is less money for the sport and less interest in the sport.

It was clear dangerous play and was nothing but a red card

Advantage speeds up play. That is necessary to stop us having millions of extra scrums and dead time in a game.

That last paragraph is possibly the biggest load of shite I've read in a long time.

It's not about allowing more injuries, it's about accepting their head injuries are a part and parcel of contact sports. The court cases aren't simply about head injuries. If they were, boxing wouldn't exist. It wasn't clear dangerous play at all, unless you are referring to the actins by Keenan? But that would be very harsh to say that. I don't think the English felt they got much an advantage from that decision last night. 😂

What do you mean what do I think happens? I'm not saying they are doing it deliberately, but they are increasing the risk of head injuries when they do. As I said if World Rugby aole motivation is to rule out head injuries they should be dishing out red cards for players who get their head in front of a tackled player rather than behind for example. Nothing World rugby has done on this issue has been about player welfare, its all been a panicked reaction to law suits. In saying that, alot of their decisions have been good and are correct.

They don't need to change tact though. Players of the current generation will find it very difficult to take legal action against world rugby or the respective Unions.

Its a contact sport, everyone now knows the risks of repeated head injuries.

Hahah what bolix , how many has Rob Kearney played? Maybe he never played at your level ahhahah

We have to accept deaths are part and parcel of driving. We should just remove seatbelts from cars. Everyone knows there’s a risk when driving. If they’re too soft to drive, they should just stay out of cars.

Don't use boards too much anymore but logged in expecting an upbeat and compelling discussions after a great 6 nations campaign. It's the complete opposite in here - just a dire read.

Fair enough there was a pair of yas in it so.

And many didn't.

But it shouldn't be serious foul play. That's the issue.

I see we have decided to completely jump the shark at this point. We do have to accept deaths are part and parcel of driving, and if some makes a decision to not wear their seat belt and dies as a result then thsts the consequences of tbdir own decision. So, to translate to rugby, at what point do players have to accept their decisions will have negative consequences towards their own health and that they must accept that as a consequence of playing a physical sport? No one forced Keenan to run head first into a player trying to avoid contact. He could have taken numerous decision and actions to protect himself if he wanted to.

Turning you shoulder in, tucking your arm and planting your foot is an attempt to avoid contact? That’s a seriously delusional take on what happened. Nothing about what Steward did was an attempt to avoid contact, nothing. The take that he was trying to protect himself is one thing but suggesting he tried to avoid contact is an absolute joke.

Red cards are a necessary evil in situations like this - rugby has to do far more to protect players or it will become a much smaller sport. That said, if I’m watching a close game as a neutral, it does lose some value for me after a red card is shown.