F.A. Cup 2023 Thread

CSF · 21-03-2023 12:13am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120381623#Comment_120381623

I don’t think it’s fair to punish him for that kind of behaviour if he didn’t demonstrate it.

He should be punished for aggressive behaviour, but not violent behaviour, because I don’t think anything he did was particularly violent.

6 game ban for aggressive and threatening behaviour towards an official and be done with it IMO.

ShamoBuc · 21-03-2023 12:40am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120381611#Comment_120381611

Because the next time 6 players surround a ref and intimidate them you think they should all get bans too?

6 is perfectly fine.

bucketybuck · 21-03-2023 1:03am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120381708#Comment_120381708

I thought people wanted the crowding of the ref to stop? Is that now considered acceptable? Normal?

Not that I should be entertaining this strawman, because the aggression on display Sunday was not the same as the usual whiny pleading from players. But then you know that.

No matter. Attitudes like this is why it keeps happening. If they want it to stop then the FA know what they need to do.

Necro · 21-03-2023 1:04am

They should throw the book at Silva too for his nonsense, Mitrovic dug his own grave but seeing his manager rant and rave like a loon at the ref over a definite penalty was bound to incite him further. I like Silva and he's been impressive at Fulham but you can't get away with that behavior, particularly over such an obvious decision.

I'd also be in the camp of seeing a long long ban for Mitrovic. Make an example of him and show grassroots in particular they're serious about protecting refs.

ShamoBuc · 21-03-2023 1:19am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120381754#Comment_120381754

Correct, and I hope they double the ban to 6 games, that will go towards helping what is not acceptable - but then you know that.

They could be like you and want a complete over reaction of 10 plus games of course. Attitudes like that will help ruin the game.

kowloonkev · 21-03-2023 4:49am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120381776#Comment_120381776

Why would it ruin the game for someone pushing, intimidating and threatening a referee to receive a 10 game ban?

ShamoBuc · 21-03-2023 8:27am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120381874#Comment_120381874

What qualifies as intimidation? Surrounding and shouting a ref - would that not be threatening and aggressive? If 3 or 4 players did that at the same time, which does happen a lot, send off each of them and give 10 game bans? Definition of overkill and it would of course ruin the game. In such an instance, I would like players- all of them- to be booked for acting like that, that would help cut it out. They very rarely are.

Di Canio got 8 for pushing Alcock.

For what he did, a 6 game ban or maybe 8 would suffice.

jacool · 21-03-2023 10:01am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120381759#Comment_120381759

That's not why Silva complained, and if you had seen his post match interview, or read this thread, you would know.

He complained because he thought VAR was being used selectively, and he was angry that VAR did not look at the coming together of Martinez and Mitrovic in the first half. He has also asked to see what the referee wrote in his match report, so I would say he's confident that the book won't be thrown at him at all.

As regards Mitrovic, I'm seeing him banned for double figures. I was one of the people who said that Fernandes should have been banned as players would start thinking they could get away with stuff. Again, anyone looking at a still of the Fernandes incident is missing out on him kicking out at and pushing Trent before he pushes the assistant referee. As regards referees touching players, I am unaware of any rule that prevents this. This was a push and should have been dealt with as such, but was just ignored as if nothing had happened.

I agree with @ShamoBuc about the intimidation aspect as well. Someone has to take action on this. I'd argue that a referee should stand his ground and not back away and if a player comes into contact with him, they should be sanctioned.

El Gato De Negocios · 21-03-2023 10:32am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120381959#Comment_120381959

Ah come on. The DiCanio one was alot softer than the Mitrovic one. Paolo gave him a bit of a shove in the chest. Mitrovic first swung the arm and connected with the refs arm then continues to remonstrate, right up in the refs face and he is body bumping him. He will get at least 10 games as right he should.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEs2Les-POc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ixp5AVdC2f4

Mitch Connor · 21-03-2023 11:23am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120378097#Comment_120378097

IMO Bruno should have got a yellow for disrespect/petulance. Mitrovic deserved his red for the aggresion he was showing at the same time.

Though I think Bruno more than just touched the ref, you see players every match touching the ref - hard on the arm, getting their attention etc. For the red card, imo there should be a line of aggression along with the damn near standard petulance of players. If Bruno had got a red, I think it would have been harsh - but a yellow would have been completely deserved.

Mitrovic was also being abusive and confrontational to the ref before the red card - the drag back/shove was the final straw, rather than it being the only reason for the card, imo.

Mitch Connor · 21-03-2023 11:26am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120381959#Comment_120381959

there was supposed to be a new rule giving a yellow card to any player approaching the ref that was not directly involved (and called by the ref) or the captain. That was a new thing this season iirc, it didn't even last a game.

Though I don't think players whinging to the ref is really a massive problem - what we don't want to see every week is repeats of the United/Boro ref incident from years ago - that is where it has clearly gone to far and yellow cards should be thrown about like candy in those situations, if not reds.

pjohnson · 21-03-2023 11:35am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120382456#Comment_120382456

Tbf it popped up randomly last month aswell Dias (Man City) and Lemina (Wolves) both got second yellows and sent off for rushing in yammering away.

jacool · 21-03-2023 12:58pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120382456#Comment_120382456

I disagree, slightly, about whinging. I think that some teams have this as a tactic, as it reduces the amount of "game time". I found this table, its league based, not cup, but there was a belief at the time, that a Tony Pulis managed Stoke City thought their chances of winning points were enhanced by less football being played! Conversely Man United, Liverpool and Arsenal games were north of 60 minutes, with, ironically after the weekend, a Man United vs Fulham game going over 70 minutes!

There's also a sort of "we're all in this together" where the team gather to show their adoring fans how united they are! We aren't allowed compare it to rugby clearly, as posters who did that had their heads bitten off, but in an ideal world I'd envy the transparency in rugby, both with regards to time-keeping and their use of the TMO. That's not even mentioning respect for the officials.

pjohnson · 21-03-2023 1:00pm

I'm pretty sure Pulis Stoke teams had a lot of delays due to Delaps throw in routine.

kowloonkev · 21-03-2023 1:33pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120381959#Comment_120381959

You are comparing apples and oranges. Mitrovic elbows the ref and then hounds him. There was no knowing what he might do because he had already lost the plot and proved he was capable of putting his hands on the official.

I think the other usual stuff of swearing and harrassing officials should also be taken more seriously but for whatever reason it's not.

adaminho · 21-03-2023 1:47pm

Put it into a real world situation? If you're in a busy bar and you're trying to get past someone and you tapped them on the arm, do you get barred? Now if if it's a barman you'll probably get cut off for the night. Yes it's a ban but in the 5/6 game region.

Weepsie · 21-03-2023 2:54pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120381608#Comment_120381608

I think other players rushing into stop him had more to do with anything than his own restraint.

CSF · 21-03-2023 3:48pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120383280#Comment_120383280

You might be right. We will never know for sure. Obviously he had a window to do it if he wanted to.

CSF · 21-03-2023 3:49pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120382490#Comment_120382490

Not that it changes much, but it was only a first yellow for Dias. The Lemina one was obviously ridiculous.

citytillidie · 18-04-2023 8:46pm

Semi-Finals

Saturday 22nd April 16:45

Manchester City V Sheffield United - Live on ITV 1

Sunday 23rd April 16:30

Brighton & Hove Albion V Manchester United - Live on BBC One

ShamoBuc · 22-04-2023 6:10pm

Mahrez hattrick sinks Sheffield Utd.

sligeach · 23-04-2023 5:49pm

Brighton should be ahead. By far the better team. Attempt straight at De Gea who flicks it over the bar. Welbeck missed the target from a free header on the resulting corner.

ShamoBuc · 23-04-2023 6:24pm

Going to extra time. You would wonder will Brighton be a bit fresher and will the game Thursday night catch up with United.

Hotblack Desiato · 23-04-2023 6:40pm

Wan-Bissaka had a very good game in defence and going forward too.

ShamoBuc · 23-04-2023 6:42pm

Brighton need to really go fot it. They are getting in great positions but are 1 touch/pass away from what is needed.

Xander10 · 23-04-2023 6:43pm

Brighton missing Ferguson's finishing

ShamoBuc · 23-04-2023 6:45pm

Fine save from Rashford - the only thing he has done in the game.

sligeach · 23-04-2023 6:57pm

That was the winning of the game right there. Mitomo needed a better first touch and it would have been 1-0. It was nice build-up play.

ShamoBuc · 23-04-2023 7:04pm

It goes to pens.

sligeach · 23-04-2023 7:05pm

It's going to penalties.

ShamoBuc · 23-04-2023 7:10pm

I'm expecting someone to slip at some stage, savage amount of rain just fell.

Fitz* · 23-04-2023 7:11pm

That's a great penalty by Dalot.

Tandey · 23-04-2023 7:14pm

De Gea looking at notes on the takers in his towel lol. Making no difference he's still sh1t.

ctrl-alt-delete · 23-04-2023 7:14pm

8 Great penalties so far, keepers have gone right side a few times without luck.

Fitz* · 23-04-2023 7:16pm

Dunk looked nervous there I thought. Stuck it in the net calmly then.

ctrl-alt-delete · 23-04-2023 7:16pm

That was close, sudden death.

sligeach · 23-04-2023 7:17pm

Sabitzer very fortunate with his penalty. Keeper got his hand on it and almost kept it out.

ctrl-alt-delete · 23-04-2023 7:19pm

March into April, maybe even May.

Lindelof to win it?

sligeach · 23-04-2023 7:19pm

Weghorst shouldn't have been allowed give that ball to March. And he said something to him as well. He's blazed his penalty way over the bar.

Just needed to keep it on target, De Gea doesn't save penalties.

Tandey · 23-04-2023 7:19pm

Stunning final penalty from Victor Lindelof to send United through.

ShamoBuc · 23-04-2023 7:20pm

Manchester derby in the final - a real pity, would have preferred Brighton.

retalivity · 23-04-2023 7:21pm

Beware the wides of March

Garzorico · 23-04-2023 7:21pm

Dreadful penalty from March. He’ll be affected by that for a long while I’d imagine.

Still, they don’t get to be battered by Man City in the final, eh?

citytillidie · 23-04-2023 7:21pm

Semi-Final Results

Manchester City 3 V 0 Sheffield United

Brighton & Hove Albion 0 V 0 Manchester United AET - Manchester United win on Pens 7-6

Final

Saturday June 3rd - Kick-off TBC

Manchester City V Manchester United - Live on BBC One / ITV 1

El Gato De Negocios · 23-04-2023 7:21pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120512499#Comment_120512499

😪😪😪😪😪😪😪

Hotblack Desiato · 23-04-2023 7:22pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120512518#Comment_120512518

Would've preferred Sheffield United

Hotblack Desiato · 23-04-2023 7:23pm

I feckin' hate penos

But for the first time in a long time it goes United's way

pjohnson · 23-04-2023 7:28pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120512499#Comment_120512499

Ban for Weghorst?

NITRO95 · 23-04-2023 7:31pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120512499#Comment_120512499

Agreed absolutely disgusting behavior. Nothing short of a lifetime ban is acceptable

Hotblack Desiato · 23-04-2023 7:34pm

Levels of obsession off the scale Ted.

Hated, adored, but never ignored.

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