Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

You’ve got a fairly blinkered view of Irish society. Plenty of unskilled workers, more than third level educated anyways.

There's nothing wrong with all types of work. Wages are another issue, the standards of life expected from types of work are another issue. In a healthily balanced confined system it works to suit its ends. A tiny nation like ireland opened up to literally the planet was never going to balance out, not in a million years.

Trying to position oneself into a rapidly shrinking population that's pampered by a rapidly increasing population of unlike people sounds like some kind of roman empire era hell. With a fraction of its longevity.

We worked perfectly fine before as a country before mass immigration, it's not a problem. It wouldn't be a problem if we operated as a bonafide country and not some strange semi nation of tax dodging corporate shills and cheap imported labour in neverending crisis.

-who’s buying into what. That would be an economical matter it’s the ecology; stupid that’s all I care for not some money grubbing scum who’d irrevocably sell you down the river overnight for a quick fix. I didn’t change my spots in that regard still the same eco warrior regardless, still fighting the good fight you protect the wildlife unique to its habitat so why not the people, or are we below that if some absolute herd off somewhere is spiralling out of control leave them be. Nature has a way of taking care of that lest we want to offset the whole equilibrium so let them at it.

Ah would you stop. A hellhole.

Sure, pick any point in time and you'll find a crisis. The 80's la la la.

But like this? Right now?

Housing crisis, immigration crisis, healthcare going down the tubes, education stuffed, and more importantly, with every factor projected realistically to get worse with no end in sight?

Jesus even with the brits it was a simple enough enemy during the troubles.

No, no. This is a whole different kettle of fish. Existential level.

We worked perfectly fine through the 90's and into the start of the century, we let it run away on us, and a large part of that, especially right now, is the rapid population increase and its infrastructural impacts.

The thing that gets me with immigration is that an Irish nurse/ doctor/ fireman etc gets no help to find somewhere to live in Dublin.

However someone that flies in and rips up their passport gets put up in a hotel?

It's beyond bizarre....

This is just another brazen example of how badly broken the nations system is, there are a million more.

There are very serious issues to be discussed in relation to culture, identity, nation, representation, fairness, rightful expectation and so on. There is a growing undercurrent within the likes of the United nations and EU as to the fallacies of modern economic theory. In other words, recognition that a lot of previously held beliefs are simply unfit for this century.

A lot of people, imo, tend to hear the word immigrant and immediately conjure up images of 1800's United States. Very few people able to travel, and those that could travelled for months if not years on end to arrive in places to no social supports and extreme hardship, but with at least plenty of room for expansion if you survived. To a lesser extent even the UK/us for irish people in the 80's. A big economic boon for a country in a lot of ways. But it's all last century thinking, if not several centuries.

We live in a world now where you can hop on a plane for 20 euro. We live in an occupied world with next to no room for immediate expansion. Climate change is happening. Cultural clashes are happening, sometimes to dreadful extents. Corporations and governments are high out of their minds on the sugar rush of cheap labour and haven't put an iota of thought into how their visions are based off century old daydreams and the impact of old meets new.

And so on.

The world is changing quickly, and in tiny little Ireland we need to get a grip on the cost of the likes of 9% of the population having arrived in a mere 5 years. The housing crisis bears it out, the healthcare situation bears it out, the education system bears it out, social mobility bears it out, eviction bans bear it out. And more.

Those are the priorities, and for the simple sake of pushing governments into this century, it is prime time for a politically actionable event on immigration in this country. Way past time, as everyone is starting to notice.

In time the war in Ukraine may be seen as a blessing, like a sharks fin appearing above water, it has drawn attention to something that was already happening under our noses.