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Tax Calculation Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 100 ✭✭Dave_D_Rave


    Hi Sono;



    Im a bit unsure of what your saying (more lack of knowledge on my part).

    Currently any Directors company pension payments reduce down my tax liability.


    For example if my Gross is 100k and my pension is 24k; my taxable income is now 76k. The pension payments get taken at source (no Tax, PRSI or USC taken out)


    Now I have a potential PAYE job offer in pipe works and the option to remain part time in my current role.



    This would mean that my PAYE salary is 80k and my Ltd company salary is 40k. I would like to keep up my 24k pension payments.




    So I suppose I am trying to weigh up what this would look like tax wise.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,107 ✭✭✭✭Seve OB


    what you mean ltd company?

    it's all PAYE surely?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 100 ✭✭Dave_D_Rave


    No its not all PAYE.


    My new role would be PAYE; but existing role is Ltd Company which shall have hours reduced.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,107 ✭✭✭✭Seve OB


    explain what you mean by ltd company? most companies are ltd companies

    do you not currently get stopped PAYE from your remuneration there? i don't think you are giving enough information here

    it is confusing because you you even say yourself that pension is being taken at source

    my Gross is 100k and my pension is is 24k; my taxable income is now 76k. The pension payments get taken at source (no Tax, PRSI or USC taken out)

    this indicates to me that you are being deducted PAYE through your directors remuneration

    of course possible you are issuing invoices and declaring your own tax?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,107 ✭✭✭✭Seve OB




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 100 ✭✭Dave_D_Rave


    Apologies for the confusion I'll try to clarify.


    Currently I am a director of a Ltd Company Gross Income is 100K; 24k Pension contribution (directors pension) which is taken at source.

    Taxable income is €76k


    My accountant does my payroll every month and I take a monthly wage from that lets say €6333 (76000/12) for arguments sake.

    Taxes, USC, PRSI are all payed out on above figue no funds left in company. (Maybe not conventional but not illiegal in any way & suits my circumstances)


    The above would be the common for people in my industry up and down the country.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,107 ✭✭✭✭Seve OB


    so payroll being done and you get a payslip then which shows your payments/pension/tax deductions?

    that is PAYE income. it doesn't matter that you are a director. the only difference could be PRSI band based on whether or not you are a proprietary director



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 100 ✭✭Dave_D_Rave


    Cheers Seve looks like we are on the same page now.



    So am I correct in saying that I should treat all my income from Ltd Company and PAYE job as PAYE essentlially when using the PWC Calculator ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,107 ✭✭✭✭Seve OB


    I’m not familiar with the calculator but I’m sure it will give you a close idea alright



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,161 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Possibly stupid question but I've finally got around to totting up the family medical expenses for 2020, 21 and 22. Have claimed on MyAccount for previous years no problem, but there's a bit of a complication since Covid.

    I haven't got around to working out how much I can claim for WFH relief for these years, and I probably won't for a good while either. Can I claim the health expenses now and then go back whenever (within the four year limit) to amend the return to add WFH expenses?

    Or as it says I'm making a "tax return" (are they trying to scare the daylights out of PAYE workers or what?) then I'm declaring that all income and reliefs are correct and I can't go back for another bite later?

    In Cavan there was a great fire / Judge McCarthy was sent to inquire / It would be a shame / If the nuns were to blame / So it had to be caused by a wire.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,083 ✭✭✭nhg


    Yes, you can go back in and amend the income tax return, after submitting the tax return, once the 1st return has been processed, when you log back in the next time you will be given the option ‘amend’, select that and add whatever expenses that you need to add and submit. An amended Statement of Liability will then issue for the year & any further refund will be transferred to your bank account or if your previous return for that year had an underpayment, the collection method will re-calculate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,161 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    That's what I was hoping! Thanks a lot @nhg

    In Cavan there was a great fire / Judge McCarthy was sent to inquire / It would be a shame / If the nuns were to blame / So it had to be caused by a wire.



  • Registered Users Posts: 50 ✭✭Keith1111


    If I wanted to set up affiliate links and get paid from them how would I go around declaring this income and paying tax on this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,108 ✭✭✭relax carry on




  • Registered Users Posts: 50 ✭✭Keith1111


    Thanks looks like it would fall into the fees and commissions side of it.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,661 Mod ✭✭✭✭Faith


    Hi folks,

    I'm a (married, joint assessment for tax) full time PAYE employee and my salary is well into the higher tax band. I've started doing some extra freelance work on the side. I'm trying to figure out how much, in a percentage, that I should be putting away to cover the extra tax due? Equally, I have various costs associated with the freelance side - should I factor that in when calculating tax? The costs would be things like office rental, professional registrations, purchase of equipment and software. As it stands, I'd project earnings of maybe €8K this year and costs of maybe €3K.

    I'll find an accountant to help with the specifics, but for now I just want to be sure I'm putting aside enough money to cover a tax bill in general terms. Thanks!



  • Registered Users Posts: 480 ✭✭Sono Topolino



    The freelance work is trading income and you will have to report it on your tax return. In computing your annual trading income, you are entitled to a deduction for expenses incurred in the course of the trade. Such costs would include office rental, professional registrations and annual software licensing fees (e.g. Microsoft Office). Equipment purchases would likely be considered "capital" in nature, especially if you would use them over the course of a number of years. The same is true if you purchase a software license that entitles you to use the software for an multi-annual or indefinite period of time (e.g. a Microsoft Windows license).

    The other thing to remember is preliminary tax. Once you file your first tax return you will have to pay:

    1. Tax on 100% of the previous year's income (revenue less expenses and capital allowances)
    2. Tax on 90% of the current year or 100% of the previous year's income.

    You can ignore PAYE income in calculating your preliminary tax liability as this is taxed at source. Your first tax return will have to be filed in mid-November of the year following your first year of trading (i.e. November 2024 if you started trading this year), and preliminary tax will be due around that time also. To avoid any surprises, I would therefore hold back at least 55% of your freelance income, being the difference between revenue and expenses (not including capital expenditure).

    I would definitely speak to an accountant about the specifics.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,661 Mod ✭✭✭✭Faith




  • Registered Users Posts: 144 ✭✭spalpeen


    Hi,

    I'm a self employed contractor and I work from home doing video consultations on the computer. Can I claim a proportion of rental expenses, electricity, gas, medical registration fees etc? Are these allowable deductions? I believe insurance payments can be deducted from my income also.

    And, if applicable, are these to be deducted to be deducted assessable profit to make a net profit or are they a separate deduction category on the form 11?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭ Rebecca Whining Gunboat


    Might be in the wrong thread but il ask anyway

    im a clerical officer and noticed my wages were down a bit, saw that my paye on my payslip went up in my last two weeks - just noticed on my Revenue account it states PAYE underpayment of minus 23euro...would that why my PAYE increased over the last few weeks..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,108 ✭✭✭relax carry on


    Have you received a new tax credit certificate stating your tax credits are reduced by 23 euro? If so then you'll pay 23 euro more PAYE this year. If it's only recently happened then about half that amount was probably collected in one go.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,661 Mod ✭✭✭✭Faith


    Possiby not the right thread for this query but I'll chance it anyway. I just logged onto revenue to upload some receipts, and I noticed that all of the receipts I uploaded in January for my 2022 tax return are listed as "Not Claimed". I did enter the details when I did my tax return, so I'm not sure what's going on. I recall thinking the sum I got back was far lower than I expected and I did request a recheck, which didn't change anything. There seems to be no option to 'submit' these receipts to claim them. Is this normal or have I done something wrong? Is there a way to 'claim' those expenses that I missed?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,083 ✭✭✭nhg


    The Receipt Tracker is just basically somewhere to store your receipts so that you don’t have to retain them for 6 years, the amounts on these receipts must be included in your income tax return to claim relief.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,065 ✭✭✭Princess Calla


    Prsi and USC on rental income.

    From what I've read you pay this on rental profit.... however I've totally confused myself.*

    Say your rental income was 2k per month so 24k per year.

    Do you pay prsi at 4% on the 24k and USC broken down into tiers for the 24k


    Or


    Do you do you pay on your figure after allowable expenses etc are deducted ie basically the figure you're paying your income tax on....so maybe paying prsi and USC on 18k



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,689 ✭✭✭✭namenotavailablE


    Do you do you pay on your figure after allowable expenses etc are deducted

    Yes, you pay tax/PRSI/USC on that value- basically on the rental profit.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,065 ✭✭✭Princess Calla


    Thanks I got myself muddled as income tax prsi and USC is paid on full figure.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,155 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Hi Folks,

    Its quite a while since I've dealt with CGT and never on the sale of a house. Can I ask the following please?

    1: As Sale closed on 18/11, I need to have my CGT paid before 15/12/23?

    2: Property sold was my wife's former PPR. I can offset the time as PPR against the Taxable Gain?

    3: Can Home renovation and other work undertaken while she lived there be used to offset chargeable gain?

    4: Can I capitalise the costs of new boiler and white goods that were being depreciated while we were renting out? Can I total up the remaining deprecation and offset against the chargeable gain?

    5: As we previously rented out the property we submit Form 11, am I correct in thinking that current CGT liability will need to be declared there via amendment to Form 11 and pay up.

    I just want to be certain that any offests she/we may be entitled to are maxed out and that no more than is required in CGT is paid.

    Thanks for any pointers on this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,794 ✭✭✭SureYWouldntYa


    1. Yes, correct date. Return before 31/10/24 (or rather the extended ROS deadline since you'll filing a Form 11 and not a CG1)
    2. Was the house jointly owned? If so her time as PPR can reduce her share of the liability, but not yours.
    3. Yes they are generally enhancement costs and would be allowed, although if the house was rented and you claimed tax expenses or capital allowances on them it should not also be claimed as a CGT deduction
    4. See above
    5. Yes the details goes on the Form 11


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,155 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Really appreciate your post, only after I posted did I see a thread with a very similar question that you'd already responded, so a double thanks is well in order.



  • Registered Users Posts: 773 ✭✭✭Lefty2Guns


    Hi All,

    Quick question on PAYE. Moved jobs in July, went from Monthly pay days to weekly with my last of the year payments being a double week.

    My PAYE contributions for the double week was 3 times what I'd usually pay for a single week.

    Can someone tell me why that was? I was expecting my PAYE contribution to be double as it was a double week.

    I paid an extra €400+ on PAYE because of it.

    Any advice would be greatly appreciated.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,794 ✭✭✭SureYWouldntYa


    The tax charge is 20% of the gross wages, less the weekly tax credits leaving the actual tax payable. Eg, gross wages of €600 would be a €120 charge, less weekly credits of €80 leaves tax payable of €40. If your wages were doubled to €1,200 then the charge is €240, less weekly credits of €80 leaves tax payable of €160. You’ll need to submit your 2023 return to get back any tax you have overpaid since the year is over



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭celtic_oz


    If I pay tax/PRSI/USC on rental income and its my only income .. do I get social security stamps with regards to state pension ?



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    You should pay Class S PRSI on rental income (as your only source of income) and Class S counts towards the Contributory state pension.



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