Barbie Kardashian is in a women's prison. Taoiseach's response to questions on this are here..

No there isn't.

This person should never have got near the criminal justice system.

They should have been committed to the central mental hospital long before that.

Solitary confinement for 4 years and then released is beyond idiotic.

No, and I dont think you will find a single syllable from me that is critical of people objecting to this individual being in a woman's prison. Or a single word from me that suggests this person should be incarcerated in a women's prison.

What you will find is that it is those posts that generalise for the trans community as a whole based on this one individual or those that attempt to conflate other issues around trans right, such as sporting competition, with this case are the ones that I am challenging.

My own opinion is for the record:

• This individual should not be incarcerated with the general prison population as they appear to be a violent lunatic to be honest.
• In general accommodation should be made, where practicable, to facilitate the rights of both trans women and biological women. This should never mean that people are forced to share a private space when to do so has the potential to make them feel their privacy is violated. If this means trans women need to be segregated, so be it.
• Trans individuals who have benefited from male puberty should not be allowed complete on a level playing field with females in a sport where that would give them an advantage.
• There are two factors which are driving increasing number of trans in the community, one positive and one potentially negative. It is recognised that gender identity does not always correlate with birth sex. This is not a new phenomenon. There are many societies throughout history where a small number of individuals have served gender roles different to their birth sex. Broader acceptance of this has resulted in more people being comfortable in expressing their different identity. This is the positive. The potential negatives are some individuals have body image, identity or other separate issues and unrelated to gender- and may latch on to changing gender as the solution to their problems without actually addressing their true issue. I however do not have the knowledge or insight to differentiate between both so treat all with basic decency, once no one else is harmed.

I personality wouldn't want to be anywhere them, absolutely nothing to do with how she choses to identify though.

the key fact is that under the current Self ID law they have the RIGHT to do so if they wish, therefore some do and nothing can be done about it.

That isn’t a fact though. Being in possession of a GRC is nothing more than an administrative matter, in that it is recognised by the Irish State, same as any other legal document recognised by the Irish State. It doesn’t automatically entitle anyone to do anything, and the only right it gives anyone is the same right as anyone else has already which is recognition by the State. There’s plenty can be done about anyone imagining they have an automatic right of entry into anywhere, and there’s plenty is permitted in Irish law to deny people access to these places and spaces should any organisation wish to do so.

The basis for the numbers

https://www.dcu.ie/news/news/2020/07/dcu-research-project-launches-survey-focusing-on-the-lived-experiences-of#:~:text=1.7%25%20of%20the%20population%20is,lived%20experiences%20remain%20largely%20hidden.

Whoops turns out I had already answered :P double post removed

And there are exemptions in the Equal Status Acts which permit certain circumstances where discrimination might otherwise be considered unlawful -

https://www.ihrec.ie/guides-and-tools/human-rights-and-equality-in-the-provision-of-good-and-services/what-does-the-law-say/exceptions/

I can see why from your perspective it seems there is a reticence to speak up or do anything about this subject based upon the idea that that one could be sued for discrimination, but that kinda overlooks the reality that the vast majority of people simply aren’t affected by the issues you’re raising, so they aren’t really all that bothered or concerned.

That's not how I read the OP.

The way I read the OP is more like "One of the things we were told could never happen as a result of gender ideology being formalised in law has happened. I maintain that men - or males if you prefer - ought not to be in women's spaces."

That's certainly what I, and apparently many other people, took from it.

It's what happens when you suppress discussion about a topic.

And lest we forget, there is another pre-hormones, pre-surgery, trans-identifying male who's been convicted of multiple sex crimes housed in Limerick women's prison. It's not an isolated incident.

If I had a penny for every time I saw someone complain about a discussion being supressed, IN A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE SUBJECT THEY ARE COMPLAINING IS BEING SUPRESSED... why I'd have a lot of pennies.

You obviously don't follow this issue very closely. That's alright - you're not obliged to. But you ought to know that you look very silly insisting that someone who does follow it very closely is less informed than you about the likelihood of a given issue being taken up by the mainstream press.

To give an example: the other pre-hormones, pre-surgery, trans-identifying male who's been convicted of multiple sex crimes housed in Limerick women's prison wasn't reported on by any mainstream outlet, despite the fact that we can now see that it's an issue that engenders a lot of strong feeling among the citizenry of this democratic nation.

To give another: Ireland's NGOs and activists were roundly praised in the "Dentons document" specifically for leading the way on keeping gender identity reforms, legislation and other issues out of the press and making sure it passed "under the radar".

People literally can't speak honestly about the topic without the risk of being warned or banned, so while it's being discussed, the discussion is only allowed on strict terms where people have to lie simply to stay in the game.

That's fair enough but the below suggested you thought a lot of us objecting were convinced that all transwomen were only transitioning to rape women when no one actually claimed that. You first supported that claim with a post linking transgenderism to mental illness, again separate to rape.

Has anyone actually claimed that all transwomen are rapists?