Crumlin Shopping Centre

fredkierans wrote: »

A staff member in Dunnes told me last week that the centre would be boarded up very soon, but that due to a change in the permission sought (the addition of apartments) a new planning permission application would have to be submitted. They said that this will likely push out the redevelopment completion to up to 2 years

According to this (https://dublininquirer.com/2021/11/17/as-council-officials-propose-residential-rezonings-across-the-city-local-councillors-vote-many-down) (which may be behind a paywall),

"Councillors rejected a proposal to rezone lands at the Crumlin Shopping Centre from being part of a key urban village (Z4) to residential (Z1).

Independents 4 Change Councillor Pat Dunne said that the current zoning is appropriate.

The shopping centre has been “decanted, decommissioned and partially demolished and is effectively a derelict site”, he said. A Dunnes Stores still trades in the shopping centre, but that’s all.

If the site were rezoned, housing might be built there but the shopping centre could still be left in its current state, said Dunne."

I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean or who proposed to rezone the lands as residential. But it certainly seems to imply that Dunnes' plans for commercial redevelopment of the site have been shelved.

Dunnes get permission to build apartments on the site years ago when they first applied for planning permission for redevolpment .

It was Dunnes themselves after the crash that pulled the apartments that were proposed .

The pertinent question would seem to be why don't Dunnes put those apartments so to speak back into the redevolpment

New developments! From councillor Pat Dunne’s Facebook page (https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=6236837546355263&id=100000872396616):

Details of the application by Dunnes Stores (Better Value Unlimited Company) for the redevelopment of the Crumlin Shopping Centre are now available on the Dublin City Council planning website. The reference no is 3372/23. Go to the web site enter the ref no. in search for a planing application. Click on the documents to see the full details of the plans.

The final date for observations to be filed is 17 April 2023.

At first glance its looks a good development. I will have a further look at the details .see below

Development at this site (3.3746ha) currently occupied by Crumlin Shopping Centre located to the north of Crumlin Road, Crumlin, Dublin 12. The site is bounded by existing residential dwellings to the north and east, Crumlin Road to the south and existing residential dwellings and Brickfield Drive to the west. 

The development will consist of the overall demolition of existing buildings and structures on site (11,444 sq.m) and the construction of a Shopping Centre with an overall height of 12.9m and an overall gross floor area of 16,892.8 sq.m (of which the shopping centre building is 16,678.4 sq.m, with the remaining 214.4 sq.m forming detached ancillary accommodation outside the footprint of the main shopping centre building), comprising the following: 

-Provision of a new anchor retail unit at ground floor and part first floor (10,245.8sq.m) comprising 8,983.1 sq.m retail floorspace (grocery and textile) including off-licence, 2no retail concession stalls (112.7 total sq.m) and ancillary café area (135.6 sq.m) associated with the anchor retail unit and an online grocery pick up room located to the rear of the proposed development (224.4 sq.m). The anchor retail unit will be served by all associated ancillary accommodation located at ground and first floor levels (1,262.7 sq.m) including storage areas comprising freezer rooms, fresh produce room, dairy room and cold meat room, loading areas, switch rooms, ESB meter rooms, water storage room and staff facilities including toilet, shower and changing facilities, kitchen, lockers and associated offices and break out rooms; 

-Provision of a 'Food Market' (1,149.7 sq.m) with 7 no. kitchens on ground floor level located within the proposed shopping centre with associated 'food court' including food counter and seating area located off main mall area (265.9 sq.m) for consumption of hot food on and off premises including and off premises including ancillary take away function and associated ancillary accommodation including offices, store rooms, chill and freezer rooms, water storage room, F.M calorifyer room, ESB rooms, switch rooms and staff

toilet and changing facilities. In addition, dedicated and enclosed courier parking to serve the Food Market is located to the rear of the proposed shopping centre;

-Provision of a cafe unit (413.2 sq.m) with kitchen serving area and stores with independent access via Crumlin Road on southern elevation and 4 no. independent retail units (ranging from 107.3 sq.m to 182.4 sq.m each, totalling 545.2 sq.m) with associated staff areas located on the ground floor adjacent to the entrance on western elevation with access via main internal mall area; 

-Provision of a library facility with flexible exhibition/community/ arts and cultural multi-function space (1,046.7 sq.m) located on the

ground and first floor of the proposed development with independent access located on ground floor level at the south- eastern corner fronting on to Crumlin Road. The library will also include all associated ancillary accommodation including lobbies, stores, a water storage facility, toilet and changing facilities and a staff room; 

-and Provision of a gym facility (1,620.7 sq.m) located on the ground and first floor of the proposed development with independent access located on ground floor level on the western elevation. The gym facility will also include all associated ancillary accommodation including lobbies, store rooms, a water storage facility, offices, shower, toilet and changing facilities. The proposed shopping centre will be served by a public toilet block (215.5 sq.m) with associated accommodation including cleaning, parent and sensory rooms, wheelchair accessible toilet and changing facilities, a reverse vending machine, mall and circulation floor space including service corridors, associated stair / lift cores and fire exit corridors, a CCTV and security room, a gas meter room, and a loading bay to the rear with associated pallét areas (to be served via existing service entrance adjacent to south- eastern boundary of site on Crumlin Road), totalling 1,657.1 

The proposed development includes a sprinkler tank, pump room, ESB substations, switch rooms, a generator and transformer and a recycling bottle bank all located to the rear of the proposed development, totalling 214.4 sq.m.

The proposed development also includes the provision of a mobility hub located adjacent to the western entrance to the development on the southern boundary which will provide safe and secure bicycle parking, a taxi rank, an interactive map, a USB charging facility, a pump, parcel lockers and scooter parking. 

In addition, the proposed development includes the retention of 400 no.existing car parking spaces on site (loss of 103 no. existing car parking spaces) which will be upgraded with the provision of 80 no. EV Charging car parking spaces, family car parking spaces, 'click-and-collect' car parking spaces and online delivery infrastructure, wheelchair accessible car parking spaces and car share scheme car parking spaces. The proposals also include 20 no. motorcycle parking spaces and 267 no. bicycle parking spaces including 6 no. cargo bicycle parking spaces. The bicycle parking spaces will be accommodated in dedicated bicycle parking stores (44.5 sq.m + 35.18 sq.m) located to the rear and adjacent to the northern boundary respectively, and through the provision of external bicycle stands. 

The development will be served by the existing vehicular and pedestrian access off Crumlin Road with proposed upgrades including a raised table at entrance. A separate access for deliveries and services is also proposed which will be located on the south-eastern corner of the site on to Crumlin Road with proposed upgrades including a raised table and service yard gate. 

The development will also involve the provision of urban realm upgrades and improvements including hard and soft landscaping to the south of the proposed building along the Crumlin Road, provision of associated signage on western and southern façades including a 6m high totem pole located adjacent to the main vehicular entrance on Crumlin Road and a 3m high totem pole located adjacent to the entrance on the western façade, boundary treatments, public lighting, solar panels on roof, green roofs / SUDs treatments, retention of existing taxi rank on Crumlin Road and provision of foul, surface water and water services on site with connections and modifications to existing. 

An Environmental Impact Assessment Report has been prepared in respect of the proposed development.

A Natura Impact Statement (NIS) has been prepared in respect of the proposed development.

What makes you think it’s a single port?

I'm quite surprised - that development isn't as awful as most.

The sign has to go up before the application even goes in - but every council is painfully slow in scanning them in.

That is indeed an unrelated development in Brickfield of about 300 Apartments on the old Eason site

However there is an update from the 14th February 2024 new planning permission application has gone up outside Dunnes

The planning permission application from last year would have run out on 8th November if Dunnes hadn't responded to request for changes to it by DCC and the NTA