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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,578 ✭✭✭Field east


    A good question to ask the Muscovite ambassador to Australia. It is probably not true re the fate of that 15 yo girl and his daughter but ask him to check it out and report back!!!!!!!!!



  • Registered Users Posts: 24,743 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Wonder how many SVR Illegals in Ireland? We have weak counter-intelligence, like Slovenia.

    Liam Smaul, a retired Special Branch detective who worked in counter-intelligence, said: “There are likely to be many agents with Irish citizenship and networks of Russian illegals living in Ireland. Russian spying is no longer confined to intelligence officers working from the embassy.”

    "When people started arriving here from Russia and the former Soviet Union in the Nineties we looked at it as an immigration issue and not as a security one,” added Smaul, who recalls how some ethnic Russians often claimed to be Moldovan or Georgian.




  • Registered Users Posts: 13,708 ✭✭✭✭briany


    @greenpilot

    Essentially, we may dismiss and belittle Russia and their capabilities, but that would be a mistake. They're not stupid. They have adapted in past conflicts, to devastating effect.

    They also have an uncanny knack of finding solutions to problems using whatever they have around them.

    ......

    My point is, now is not the time for the West or Ukraime to become complacent. None of us really know what's going on on the ground

    I see a few posters getting excited about the possibility of a devastating Ukrainian counteroffensive and a rout of Russian forces by the end of Summer or that Russian forces are spent. I agree that this is getting a fair bit ahead of ourselves.

    I don't think it is being complacent, though, to point out that Russia's invasion of Ukraine up until now has so far been a failure with respect to their 24/02/2022 objectives and that they've gone backwards in terms of territory held.

    I don't own a crystal ball and can certainly not rule out the idea of Russia turning this around, but I have to ask what the timeframe is on that and further ask whether Russia can fight as long as it would take. Afghanistan, as one example, puts paid to this idea that Russia can always win a war if they're given enough time and it's not the only historical example of Russia losing a war.

    If Russia are to turn this one around (which I hope they don't) it also begs the question of what they're looking at doing differently, if anything at all, because that's not something I see anyone talking about. Are they looking at doing something differently? Because what they're doing right now does not appear to be working in terms of advancing across Ukraine.



  • Registered Users Posts: 23,986 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    But what can they do differently?

    Their elite forces are dead. Their mercenary forces are dying and under rogue control anyway. The quality of their recruits and conscripts is abject and even if it wasn't, these people don't want to fight for Putin and they are deployed under coercion and under threat of reprisal against their families, with basically no training.

    Their armour is gone. Their fighter bombers and attack helicopters have been massively depleted. Their artillery and longer range missiles have been almost depleted and as an economy, Russia doesn't have the capacity to replace them effectively and quickly.

    It absolutely doesn't have the technology to repair and replace the digital systems that comprise and run their command and control network and more advanced weapons systems.

    So my question to those who think there is a risk, or indeed a liklihood of Russia turning this War around would be; how?



  • Registered Users Posts: 510 ✭✭✭AerLingus747


    they are in Ireland under the "Temporary Protection Directive" ... which is a subset of the "International Protection Directive" (Asylum).

    This give them access to a country in an almost "lift and shift" function ... but as the name says, it's temporary, it was originally to March 2023, but was recently extended to March 2024 ...

    In short, people under TPD have more rights than an asylum seeker, but less than a Citizen.

    When this temporary notice ends, they have pretty much 3 options:

    -try and continue to claim refugee status, which will at some point put them on the asylum seeker route

    -get Irish citizenship via fast track (marriage, pregnancy etc...)

    -apply for normal non-EU work permit

    there is a 4th outlier which may or may not happen of fast track Irish citizenship, I'm sure you'd love that.


    But no matter what the anti-immigrant marches would like you to believe, they don't get automatic settled status...



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    Russians decimated by mortar artillery trying to attack an Ukrainian trench

    Looks lke they called in artillery and nearly hit their own positions




  • Registered Users Posts: 510 ✭✭✭AerLingus747


    It's been standard ops since the Rivet Joint incident early this year (late last year?)

    Typhoons from Akrotiri usually meet the Rivet Joint over Romania after tanking...

    Even though you won't see it, a lot of the Rivet Joint flights (RAF and USAF) are escorted in international waters now.... the Kaliningrad flights are regularly protected by whichever airforce is on Baltic Police duties and are regularly intercepted by the Russians.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,708 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Fair enough, although it's worth pointing out that Leopard 1 tanks, which Ukraine are using, first came into service nearly 60 years ago themselves, and this is probably a point being raised on Russian propaganda networks. A point we would counter with service history and retrofitting of new equipment being more important than a tank's mere age. Therefore, when we say that Russia is putting out 70 year old tanks, it's just worth qualifying that with whether they're deploying them exactly as they had been when they were mothballed.



  • Registered Users Posts: 510 ✭✭✭AerLingus747




  • Registered Users Posts: 8,439 ✭✭✭jmreire


    The quality of life in Poland was not great either a few years ago, but after joining the EU, that has all changed. Its a different country now, as proved by the Nrs that left the UK after Brexit, and the EU generally during Covid, but did not return. Any ex- USSR Country has the same story to tell. And this is one reason why Putin invaded Ukraine, not because of NATO, but because he did not want the same success story emanating in Ukraine. It would have been like the horses looking over the hedge at the lush green fields next to them, while trying to survive on the poor grass in their own field. For sure, depending on how long the war drags on, a certain % will put down roots here in Ireland and remain, but for many, Ukraine is their home, and their history and that's where they will return too. I remember meeting a Chechen on flight one time while in Russia, He was returning back home to Grozny, after spending more than 10 years in Miami. When I expressed my surprise that anyone would swap the life in the US for the life in Chechnya, with the war in full swing, and the city leveled from the Russian bombing, he explained, that yes, the life in the US was indeed very good, he had made a lot of money, but his real life was in Chechnya, with its traditions and culture. And his place in Chechen society was more valuable to him than Life in the US,



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  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    The difference is they had transponders on so everyone knew exactly what was flying along side



  • Registered Users Posts: 510 ✭✭✭AerLingus747


    transponders are usually always on....just not broadcasting Mode-S extended squitter



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,708 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Another thing is that this war is not existential for Russia. Russia knew its existence was on the line in 1940 and that was a big motivator in every able-bodied Russian doing their bit. Does every Russian believe so strongly about what is happening in Ukraine? Are Russians as motivated to fight? I think, perhaps, that they are not.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,145 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Or the Russians are being sensible and changing tack? If I were running Russia(well I'd not have started or run this war like this), I'd be thinking OK, We have a large chunk of Donbas, Crimea is ours and we're keeping a lid on the land between them. The Ukrainians are getting more help and stuff like tanks etc are coming, along with even more Western training. Crap like Bakmut is a grindfest and not getting us anywhere. OK, lets consolidate fortify what we have, make it near impossible for Ukraine to take it back and get our new chums the Chinese to do the required on "peace talks". They can sell that to their people easy peasy. Say they've taken back Russian land, say they've dealt Ukraine a blow and the hated "West". They've sold dafter and fewer dead bodies coming back looks better for the optics.

    If anything I'd suspect the same Chinese would be all the way behind this as for all the guff about friendship this crap is costing them money and they need to start ploughing their cash into turning Russia into their new resources bank, while keeping the West open for business. Win, lose or draw for Russia, it's win, win and win for China either way.

    And I would bet the farm a fair few Russian high ups are not too pleased at all that it's come to this. They had bet on Europe and the EU to line their pockets and knew the EU were not going to try and take them from behind minus vaseline. After all they didn't over the near forty years of pipelines going into Europe. Something the Americans were not happy about one little bit. But they know China will go in dry as putin put them over a barrel.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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    155 mm DPICM ammo have an devasting effect on russians

    You sure wouldnt be on the receiving end of this




  • Registered Users Posts: 13,708 ✭✭✭✭briany


    I don't think Putin has that much control over Russian minds that he can spin a victory out of what of Ukraine Russia currently holds. If he did, he could nearly tell them that Russia already won the war and leave it at that. There are obviously motivations for him to truly realise the territorial ambitions he had on 24/2/2022 and he has invested so much into it, that I very much doubt he can call it a day now. And even if he could spin it all rosy on the domestic front, the external realities remain the same - Ukraine still stands, Russia remains under sanction, Russia looks weak and inept. Putin may be able to live with the sanctions - wear them as a badge of honour, even - if the other things were not so, but they are, and he knows it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,610 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    I think he could spin it that way if he wanted to, I think being in ukraine keeping the war/special operation is the goal right now, doesn't matter much if they don't make progress as it keeps him in control either way.

    I would like to see a push towards Melitopol and then a push further into Crimea as it's what makes putin look weakest, losing or maintaining existing territory in the east (where they have been waging a war of sorts for years) won't change much.

    I could see it ongoing till putin is dead, natural causes or otherwise (i.e. it could be a decade or more).

    It will likely leave Ukraine as one of the most heavily armed countries right on russia's border, but putin won't be around to worry about that bit.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,708 ✭✭✭✭briany


    It's not so much being in Ukraine which is the goal, then. Sounds more like it is simply to stay in power. Considering he was essentially being made leader for life before the invasion proper began and considering that Russia were already in Ukraine before the official invasion began, it sounds to me like what Putin is attempting to do here is a bit redundant.



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,610 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    I can only think that being in a "special operation" situation allows him to quell rebellions and keep those around him under the thumb (witness how feckless the oligarch's have been after they've had all their international goodies and freedom taken away. Rationally, there's no advantage to continuing, barring an unrealistic expectation that they can win and turn Ukraine into a russian vassal state.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,708 ✭✭✭✭briany


    If Mussolini were alive today, one thing he could tell us is that war is not the ultimate tool for a fascistic leader to remain in power. Thankfully he's not around today - mainly because no one lives to the age of 140, but also because his people strung him up a long time ago.

    Putin's power is already getting publicly challenged by the likes of Prigozhin. I think there's at least much risk of creating rebellions via a failing war effort as there is of keeping them under control with a winning one.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,610 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    I don't think the russians see it as failing, at least, out loud.



  • Registered Users Posts: 20,047 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Ukraine is protected by a tiny handful of air defence systems. The Orcs have massive air superiority which they have held back. They also have been waging a large and ceaseless espionage effort to locate those very few air defences. If the Orcs were to overwhelm and/or sabotage them, then they could take out Ukraine's western supply routes, their remaining and outmatched aircraft, and then the could level all their cities from high altitude and with the large number of inaccurate missiles they still have.

    This is why I am so concerned by the abject stupidity of Biden and his advisers in not providing modern western fighters, as they are the one and only thing, barring direct western involvement, that might prevent such a scenario. Ukrainian pilots should have been in the west training on F-18s, 8 months ago.



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,339 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Ukraine needs to get back Soledar from Wagner and do a Zelensky broadcast from inside.



  • Registered Users Posts: 23,986 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    And why have the Orcs held back their air forces?

    Because they are gone. Shot down, blown up, failed and broken down.

    If they had them, we'd have seen them by now, because true air superiority would end the War in a week.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,708 ✭✭✭✭briany


    @cnocbui

    The Orcs have massive air superiority which they have held back.

    Must just be conscripting 100,000s of men and breaking out ancient tanks for the craic, then.



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    I think the reason why Russia dont have air superioriy is well explained here




  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Far from it ,they have 90 jets and 60 hind gunships stationed in Crimea alone,they still have long range tactical bombers and their older bombers



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,708 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Lot of talk of what Russia has in regards air power and absolute crickets as to why they're not using it (or cannot use it) to any extent which turns the tide of war.

    Any answers about that?




  • Registered Users Posts: 7,339 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69




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  • Registered Users Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Old Franco lived to a ripe old age by knowing well what Benny didnt



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