Milk Price III

Did you not read glanbias new manufacturing policy for 2023

Cows are going well in the mart. Call out the withdrawal.

The nitrates is a balls but dumping cows, culls, calves are all a cost. Then you are depending on the milk cheque to make it all up which is ok until you hit a bad year. In the meantime there is lads hoovering up all these bargains and living off the dairy farmer without ever having to milk a cow. Doing my figures at 170 for any future expansion here.

It's like the creosote. They offered a derogation for so many years and then just decided not to renew the derogation.

Everyone now is considering 220 a done deal. One more cut to 200 and then gone.

From 2024 glanbia suppliers are basically operating under arla type calf rules

The large crossbreed herds are in a spot of bother to put it mildly, even where calves are bobbied it can't take place before 8 weeks of age even where a third party does it

Where are you hearing 30c

Ditching the sfp, and making sure not to attract the attention of local council is the only option been left for alot of lads at this stage, it's amazing how little f**ks the department gives about you once your not applying for sfp/tams grants

It's a bit sad that they have to write it in the first place.

That's the rub of it, billion plus apwnt spent on stainless steel between them, and now their kicking the stool from underneath suppliers with rules and regulations ....

Lads would stomach alot of it if milk prices had stayed up past 50 cent, but at low our sub 40 cent given input costs, the margin won't be their to fund the latest rules

Co councils do a lot of inspections in westmeath .... mainly driveby but they do proper inspection too of any of the driveby ones that they flag

Farmers have to think for themselves too ….no issue if lads offload culls in October November after getting years milk ….next man has to make money so be it ….most farmers haven’t forgot calves and again what about it if they sell calves at 14/21 days and get 5/10 euro ….if there looked after well in your care and you have a buyer that’s what matters ….contract rearing is just smart rather than giving stiuoid money to rent land …..there a world outside of us dairy farmers that have to make a living too

Break down because of lack of communication and expecting too much from a rearer or constant whining about price of it …..it’s a cost yes and how rearer works is crucial but great relationships built up and lads at it for years ….my first year at it here …..nitrates forcing my hand …not dropping cow nos and my income and not giving stupid money to rent land to complicate things further …..really good guy doing it and we’ve our own arrangement in place and I’m comfortable with it

Yea, During the high interest rates of the eighties I rented out space in the slatted sheds and it wasn't a good experience. I wouldn't do it again.

some people can be a right pain and you just ahve to take it..

It did not work out because he picked the wrong lad and price probably dictated that.

When contract rearing first started a lot of dairy farmers considered that they should only pay the lowest rate dictated by the lowest rate of profitability of beef farms

A few of us pointed out that the lower profitable drystock farmer might not have the skillset or animal husbandry skills to achieve the targets that dairy farmers required.

As well they wanted to have this option at a cheaper cost that if they held onto the task themselves. Add in factors like they wanted no other cattle in the herd unless it was stock from there farm and they wanted to reduce the option for profitability of the dry stock farmer.

I couldn't tell you how people's thoughts work but the prices being quoted by teagasc for contract rearers seem very low to me. Better off paddle your own canoe if you ask me.